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Breeding Practices

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by vellie, Jan 6, 2021.

  1. ziggy311

    ziggy311 Big Dog

    The pedigree will be true when you bred each dog in each generation.
    IMO that is the only proven way to have a true pedigree is to have bred & owned each dog n it.

    We can't put a stamp on what true or not before our names in pedigrees but we can we we are the ones who owned the dog that is in the pedigree.
     
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  2. dont get to caught up in pedigrees aint right I had these dogs for a while and people telling me now how mine were bred
    hence I am know to rarely let one go and somewhere have a pic of the breeding still they insist they know better
     
  3. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    Funniest are the critici who can't beat it.
     
  4. corvettedex

    corvettedex CH Dog

    A old friend and I have 3rd generation Bulldog's. Heavy Boyels , 1 of my Lil Males "5 Shot Browning " 20210331_172430.jpg Resized_20210417_184322.jpg Resized_20210417_183956.jpg will be 11 months old on the 25th of April 38lbs Eager to please, High drive Extremely Athletic Pup....
     

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  5. corvettedex

    corvettedex CH Dog

    Resized_20210417_183956.jpg 20210331_172430.jpg Resized_20210417_184322.jpg Resized_20210417_183956.jpg Resized_Resized_20201107_180943(1).jpeg A old friend and I have 3rd generation Bulldog's now, we refer to them as Heavy Boyels with some Bullshit . 1 of my Lil Males my wife picked Lil"5 Shot Browning " View attachment 29731 View attachment 29733 View attachment 29734 will be 11 months old on the 25th of April 38lbs Smart, Eager to please, High drive Extremely Athletic Pup....
     
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  6. ziggy311

    ziggy311 Big Dog

    Good stuff Sir.
    Just stick with it & you can't go wrong.
    Best of Luck .
     
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  7. corvettedex

    corvettedex CH Dog

    Thank you brother. I might get up with you.
     
  8. corvettedex

    corvettedex CH Dog

    Well said and I respect your honesty.
     
  9. corvettedex

    corvettedex CH Dog

    So many people are getting caught up and chasing paperwork. they don't even have a clue if these breedings are actually true .Unless they're getting the Bulldog's from a honest person just as you said that's been doing their own breedings. Hands-On but having said that depending on who they got there I
    Iri
    Original stock from, the paperwork behind those dogs could be false. Yet at that point it doesn't matter . I only heard of two families who are honest about their breedings on paper the Colby family and Howard heinzl . I understand that to a certain degree such as The Old Master himself . Maurice Carver who bred some of the Best on the planet.
     
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  10. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    A It is about honesty and pride. B It is all about ego and money. A person can choice for A or B or mix A and B up as it is on him or her how tot run their dog business. No matter what when money become the main factor and honesty is not there it will fail in the end. Pride and a bit Not over the hill ego plus honesty makes better dogs.
     
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  11. I used a phrase back in the day never buy a dog from someone who seeks money to pay child support or his mortgage
    if a man need to buy his next meal for his family and the money needs to come from this litter who knows what he might tell you
     
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  12. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    That's why papers are hanged and bogus story's floating around. Recall the guy who bought cheap dogs advertised in the newpapers to resale them later with a fixed pedigree for big bucks. Or a studdog who was in high demand but an other was used instead without telling the owner of the bitch. Or the bitch who changed from four to eight in a day. The male from four who was 9 in a day Happens all the time in life, crooked people everywere. look at our government, LOL corrupt to the bone. Some commit a robbery or murder for cash and some bred dogs which are far away from the truth. Nothing wrong with earning some well deserved cash for an good dog so long as it is bred in all honesty.
     
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  13. CopperOFRN

    CopperOFRN Big Dog

    Not sure how to start a new question on a similar topic. Anyway- has anyone noticed a difference when breeding a belly brother/sister vs breeding brother/sister from the same parents but different litters? Seems to me it would be the same EXACT genes but maybe one of you has noticed something different. Not necessarily something I would ever do, just curious.
     
  14. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Interesting.

    Never thought about it from that perspective.

    S
     
  15. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    While I don't typically ever do full sibling breedings I do know However, those same exact genes do not express themselves in the same way pup to pup. Even from the same litters.
     
  16. CopperOFRN

    CopperOFRN Big Dog

    The only reason I ask is because my buddy bred full belly brother/sister and ended up with a some serious problems. Cleft lip/cleft palates/ etc. but he also bred full brother sister from different litters(same parents) and ended up with an entire litter of perfect pups. Maybe luck, maybe not. These are American bullies if that makes a difference. Pretty scattered peds behind them.
     
  17. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    Littermate or siblings will come from the same bowl of skittles. Even the "good " litter is going to carry the deformed genes because they are in the same bowl of skittles.
     
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  18. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    American Bullies are no purebred APBT the last were bred for G.A.S. in the old days and to much tight give badly bred dogs with all kind of defects in all breeds of dogs Especially if they are bred only for their looks plus $$$ and nothing else more of much more importance IMO.
     
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  19. CopperOFRN

    CopperOFRN Big Dog

    I’d never own a Bully myself, but to each their own I guess. He just got lucky with his one litter then. I think the tightest I’d ever go is 1/2 brother sister. My current American Bulldog is turning out really nice. Little bit too reactive to guns/chainsaws but he’s gotten a lot better. Doesn't mind the harness, but still skeptical of it. 2 weeks until 6 months and his balls are just really starting g to grow. Pretty sure I’m going to see a nice growth spurt soon. Hopefully maintain the same temperament. 2 mile mellow runs through the woods with dirt bike/mountain bike/quad. Behaves the same with all of them. June 14th he’ll try a 20ft chain with the harness.
     

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  20. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    Right to each his own. But when into the art of breeding, breed sound dogs all the way, otherwise it is cruelty to animals. Best of luck with your endavours with the dogs.
     
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