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WSK & KING'S "Stump"

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by SLICK WILLIE, Dec 14, 2007.

  1. SLICK WILLIE

    SLICK WILLIE Guest

    WSK & KING'S "Stump"

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=268444

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    Photo: By Nuff Said Kennels

    Stump was one of the best off the old Flossie II bitch ever!!!
    This dog has not had his share of air time! Looking at the number of times bred and what he has produced and what his offspring have produced is outstanding! To make a comparison he has a much better production record than the Howe's "Willie" Dog AKA Wildside's "Willie". Not to cause a fuss but just stating fact that Stump has thrown better dogs in fewer breedings than Willie ever could have. Also Stump has two and three gens off him that are doing the same if not better. They are funny looking little dogs with pig eyes mostly white with red patches and wide damn open! If I could suggest anything to someone that wanted a good Redboy/Jeep dog it would have to come through the Stump dogs and don't really matter how it's crossed or blended. Not hearsay just plain fact! Look it up and ask the right people and you'll see for yourself!
     
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  2. coolhandjean

    coolhandjean CH Dog

    Re: WSK & KING'S "Stump"

    Awesome. Thanks for sharing. I never heard of Stump, but I'll have to look into him. :)
     
  3. Re: WSK & KING'S "Stump"

    Nice post Slick, and how very true it is! ;)
     
  4. SLICK WILLIE

    SLICK WILLIE Guest

    Re: WSK & KING'S "Stump"

    Many good dogs out there that aren't glamorized like the others! Another would be the comparison between Jeep and his brother Charlie! Ch Charlie was by far a better dog than Jeep was and not many know Charlie even existed.

     
  5. Marty

    Marty Guest

    Re: WSK & KING'S "Stump"

    Here's my buddy with Ch Charlie...
     

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  6. simms

    simms CH Dog

    Re: WSK & KING'S "Stump"

    Good lookin lil bulldog.
     
  7. SLICK WILLIE

    SLICK WILLIE Guest

    Re: WSK & KING'S "Stump"

    Thanks Marty thats a good Pic for everyone to see!!!
     
  8. Re: WSK & KING'S "Stump"

    Ditto...nice pic...thanks Marty!
     
  9. Marty

    Marty Guest

    Re: WSK & KING'S "Stump"

    He is also my mentor ;)
     
  10. crawfish407

    crawfish407 Banned

    Re: WSK & KING'S "Stump"

    He looks almost exactly like my dog Cow if her ears were cut. You wouldn't happen to know what color his eyes were by any chance? Blue eyed dogs squint in bright sunshine and it makes them look pig eyed. Just wondering. Thanks for the post, it nice to hear about something other than Jeep.
     
  11. sapitbulls

    sapitbulls Guest

    Re: WSK & KING'S "Stump"

    Nice looking dog, i came in this thread hopeing you where not talking about castle king's stump cause thats just a fat ass bully lol.
     
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  12. Bullyson

    Bullyson CH Dog

    Re: WSK & KING'S "Stump"

    Love the way that Stump dog looks. Mouth like a bear trap...:D
     
  13. lonesharkpits

    lonesharkpits Big Dog

    Re: WSK & KING'S "Stump"

    is stump still alive?? I almost got a grand daughter of stump once, she was actually a good looking dog as a pup
     
  14. SLICK WILLIE

    SLICK WILLIE Guest

    Re: WSK & KING'S "Stump"

    No, old Stump passed away a good while back down in SC! His offspring and Grandchildren are close by you in them hills! Stump was a good dog and was a man among boys as a Bulldog and producer.

     
  15. TabDogs

    TabDogs CH Dog

    Re: WSK & KING'S "Stump"

    LMAOOOO!!!! Thats all I can say!!!
     
  16. Pipbull

    Pipbull Top Dog

    Re: WSK & KING'S "Stump"

    That can't be all you can say, getting everyone curious with that comment. What's funny?

    Not being a smart ass, just wanna know.
     
  17. misterdogman

    misterdogman CH Dog

    Re: WSK & KING'S "Stump"

    Hmmm go figure. That person up there said "Willie". (giggles) Did you notice that?
     
  18. TabDogs

    TabDogs CH Dog

    Re: WSK & KING'S "Stump"

    Whats funny is that someone who has NO personal knowledge on my dog, can make such a BS statement. First of all I would like to say I am NOT knocking Stump in anyway, But he is not the best producing son of Flossie II. Period. Just as a side note, just because a dogs offspring are not listed on "peds online" does not mean they do not excist. The only knowledge this "guy" has on Willie is what he has "assumed" not what he has expirenced. First and foremost Willie never got the shot he deserved to be fully respected for his producing abilities due to the fact that his previous owner bred the holy sh** out of him, with out 1st seeing his percentages in only a few breedings. Puppy Peddling is a disease. It is contagious. And is a disgrace to this breed. With that said, Willie has VERY high percentages in all the breedings that were done with him. All dogs produce both good and bad dogs, what matters are the percentages with in a litter. He achieved his stautus as a producer very quickly. Thank God "good" people got his offspring in thier hands. What people seem to forget is that in this day and age sometimes PRIVACY is the best policy. There are still people in these dogs who wish for thier dogs not to be plastered on the World Wide Web. I have spent numerous hours/days/months and yes, years tracking down the owners of Willie's offspring to find out for myself what his percetages per litter were before I aquired him. The litters I have raised off him, the percentages have been lovely. His best cross, in my personal experience has been with RBJ bitches. Willie will be 10 in feb, he is strong as a bull and runs around like a puppy. Most people that see him in person cannot believe he is approaching 10. His sperm count is high for his age and has great forward progression. He is living the lap of luxury in the house, and will be around for years to come. It has been some time since I have logged on to this board, and needless to say I am glad to be back.

    **MIA I am so deeply sorry for your loss of your beloved Miacoda. My heart goes out to you. If there is anything I can do for you please let me know. I know I am late on saying this but I just read it not long ago.
     
  19. SLICK WILLIE

    SLICK WILLIE Guest

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    I said ONE of the best! Not the best...

    I knew about your dog before he was your dog! I did homework on the dog and on Stump. I went to people who would give me facts about both dogs that would not give me a bias opinion. The dogs were not researched on pedigrees online for any reason. I looked for people who bred to each dog back when each were in the prime of their breeding career.

    Stump could be bred to anything and produce quality offspring were you state that Howe's Willie produces better being bred to RBJ dogs. Stump was not lacking because he has the RB Jeep. Willie only having Jeep blood makes him come up just short of being the producer that Stump was. Stump is still producing through 2, 3 and 4 gens later and that is fact. I can spend all day calling people that I know that will sugar coat supposed facts about both dogs but the truth was more important to me.

    I wanted to breed to Willie at one time back when WSK owned the dog and even after you got him but after further review of said animal I changed my mind. Willie has thrown some good dogs and I don't take that away from him at all but Stump and his offspring bring more to the table to men that been in these dogs for more than five minuets. Money don't always buy the best and most of the time it blinds people from the truth.

    This guy (as you have stated) has been in the dogs as long as you have and don't you think for a second I can't find out the truth about any dog tied to a axel. If I were you I'd go find a good little bitch off the old stump dog and then watch what Willie will produce for you being bred to that. You might just find what you been missing. Respectfully, Slick
     
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  20. SLICK WILLIE

    SLICK WILLIE Guest

    Re: WSK & KING'S "Stump"

    Gathered a little bit more information on old stump! As I was visiting with some old friends I ask more detailed information on the dog. Stump made POR after 4 breedings to quality bitches back in the day. Not every Tom, Dick and Harry had access to this phenomenal stud and thats a good thing! The fewer spooning the stew, the more you can enjoy a good meal I guess.

    There are men that I’m sure are kicking their selves over it now. Stump bred into Howe’s Willie bred bitches makes a fine breeding it’s self but as I said before Stump never made a bad breeding. Stump could have been bred to a cur and still produced at least one or two good dogs out of the litter.

    I have had the opportunity to lay hands on the Sons and grandsons off old Stump and will say they are built strong, have great conformation and lack nothing to be desired. Now after knowing and understanding more about who had the dogs, I have come to understand percent wise Stump was the Best dog off old Flossie II bitch! There is no "Lol" to this just fact. Slick




     

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