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RIP Gage (cross post)

Discussion in 'R.I.P.' started by MidnightSkyKnl, Mar 23, 2008.

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  1. Gato

    Gato Big Dog

    You are right mam, I'M NOT AN ANIMAL LOVER, but I like my animals, I enjoy my animals, I take great care of my animals, I protect my animals and I respect my animals. And I don't loose perspective as to differentiate between an animal and a human being.

    Everything has it's place and animals to me are not my first order of priority.

    With this I'm not saying that that ass hole was not at fault, no no no, but again, I'm just saying that this situation was blown out of proportion.
     
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  2. simms

    simms CH Dog

    You can agree or dissagree with me. I will tell you that I dont let my dogs run loose even in a fenced yard unsupervised.

    I feel sad for these folks but once again...had they gone one step further.

    mmmmmmghhhh (shrugs shoulders)
     
  3. Crystal621

    Crystal621 Big Dog

    I'm not going to get in to who I think is at fault or not. It sucks that it happened, RIP Gage.

    But I had to comment on this:

    I don't...Ever.

    I don't care if it was 1000 acres, they will not be out there alone running free. Plus in this case, besides the fact the dog could jump the fence or whatever else, there were three other dogs outside, and still no supervision??


    I would not go as far to say this is a hate crime, that may be humanizing dogs too much (and I AM an animal lover....hell that's what pays the bills)...plus if the neighbors problem was with the barking, it coulda been a beagle and he still woulda done it.

    Again, no opinion to who's at fault, and I am not defending the neighbor either. But usually when you get a laywer for defense, they tell you not to say anything...anything you say can be twisted. Just a guess.
     
  4. Chef-Kergin

    Chef-Kergin Guest

    I'M REPOSTING THIS SINCE I DON'T KNOW WHY IT GOT DELETED

    d-r-a-m-a, d-r-a-m-a, d-r-a-m-a, and drama was it's name-o. :rolleyes:

    my sister's jrt (my dog's bellymate) was recently shot and killed. they live on 10 acres, and she decided to let the dog run free for the afternoon. the neighboring farmer called and said, "ma'am, you'll need to come get your dogs body. he got into my chicken coop and was eating a bird, so i shot him." she was a little upset there was 6 .22 rounds in him, but at least the farmer finished him off.

    her fault.

    why?

    SHE DIDN'T KEEP HER DOG PROPERLY CONTAINED!
     
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  5. Gato

    Gato Big Dog

    JRT?? I tought it was a Pitbull. Is this the same story or is this another dog that got shot?

    If it is the same story then we are seeing a little bit more than what was said.

    So the dog was not an angel after all and he was eating the neighbors animals. The neighbor was also protecting his animals as you would protect yours.

    That bird probably even had a name. So why is it ok for your dog to kill his pet bird?

    There is always two sides to every story!

    Contain your dogs properly and you could of avoided this whole mess.
     
  6. rallyracer

    rallyracer CH Dog

    gato- the JRT and Gage were 2 different dogs
     
  7. You got the nerve to say I am dumb as a box of rocks.OH that's why I was involved in the Michael Vick case??? Worked with many of his victims (YES THE DOGS)...yep thats me OLE dumb as a box of rocks...OH is that why I work for rescues assisting in home inspections, transportation legs helping to get abused or dogs on death row to their forever home...etc... The list can go on and on!!!

    YOU DONT KNOW ME..and You and everyone else (minus a few) here evidently does not have the capability of seeing THE TRUTH! People like you (i dont mention names cause im not into that) are so close minded..You see what you want to see and that's the way it is ACCORDING TO YOU...end of story!

    I have been around hundreds of pitbulls...and other breeds but it is usually the pitbulls who are the ones who fall victim to peoples ignorance. I spend my time picking up the pieces of what some HUMAN has done to an animal....

    My life means something for I am doing God's work...And Gage was one of God's creations...I really don't know what else there is to say because it's like that old saying...Im talking to deaf ears....

    I'm proud to say I labsolutely ove my Lab Hailey (who was a rescue MIND YOU)...I'd walk in front of a car to save her life....And before you say EXTREME AGAIN, I am one of THOSE PEOPLE who LOVES their animals...NOT one who just "likes there dog"....When you have walked my shoes....seen the abuse that happens every single day to these animals THEN you can judge me.....

    To those who have this wild opinion that a dog should be chained in their fenced in yard....HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF "DOGS DESERVE BETTER ORGANIZATION"...I am a representative for them as well..(check them out ...you might learn something about CHAINING your dog- because that is what this organization is all about) OH wait..THAT must be why i am as dumb as a box of rocks...

    Might I ask...what do you do to make a difference in this awful world????????



    What do you do to help this world??????????

    WWW.JUSTICEFORGAGE.COM
     
  8. GSDbulldog

    GSDbulldog CH Dog

    Dogs Deserve Better? That "humaniac" organization run by a damn media-hungry dog-thief?
     
  9. simms

    simms CH Dog


    Lady you are CRAZY! That saying has been in my sig for the better part of two years. LOL

    Your credintials dont mean jack shit to me! An what I do is none of your buisness!

    ETA: Gods work? you have got to be kidding...LOL. You aren't doing gods work by these animals. You are doing what makes you feel good in this life.
     
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  10. simms

    simms CH Dog

    This person is deffinatly boarder lineing on some serious emotional issues....Trippin!
     
  11. ABK

    ABK Rest In Peace

    Justice - You are engaging in major anthropomorphism (i.e. attributing human form on an animal).

    Gage was a dog. And not a well kept dog at that. There is no reason whatsoever he should have been loose in that yard alone, let alone loose in a yard with other dogs. Both shows extreme ignorance of our breed as well as extreme irresponsibility on the part of his owners.

    Was the neighbor an a-hole? Sure. I won't dispute that. But he would not have had the chance to engage in that awful crime that he did if Gage's owner's would have - for his safety - kept him contained & quiet.

    His crime was barking? Yes, actually that IS a crime. It violated noise ordinances. So Gage's owners were "criminals" as well, although their crime wasn't as heinous. As soon as the neighbor complained about Gage's barking, they should have done something to keep him quiet to ensure Gage's safety. Barking dogs of ALL breeds are often done away with when the neighbors have had too much.

    Going on, I will not say that people here do not love their dogs. I love my dogs & I adore my cats. But I would not jump out in front of a car for them or put the life of a human in front of theirs. You can love a creature, but there is still an order of value in this world & a human's life is more valuable than an animal's.

    As for your participation in your various endeavors, that is great. Wonderful for you. But if you would, go ask your buddies at Dogs Deserve Better what would have happened if Gage had he had a nice chain or runner set up? Wait, I'll save you the hassle & answer for you - HE'D BE ALIVE TODAY.

    Dogs Deserve Better - you know you're right, I have to agree. A dog deserves to have a caring owner to contain it properly. And if that means a nice chain or runner set up, fine. Or would you rather see the dog a grease spot on the road or shot & left to die like Gage? Me, I myself, I would rather keep my dogs safe & sound. They deserve it.

    As for "doing God's work" why don't you then go care for some of His children? At this very second, as you are reading this, there is a human being - a child of the Most High God - being physically, sexually or mentally abused. These human being go through every single abuse you have ever seen an animal be subject to & more. Yet you do not seem to care about them & would rather divert your resources & funds to care for pets.

    Now do I believe we should rescue & care for abused animals? Sure. I 100% agree. But I also believe that abused humans need our help before abused animals. Rescuing & caring for animals is great, but how in good conscience can you do it when you know a little girl in your neighborhood is being molested (did you know 1 in 3 women is a molestation victim?), a women is being beaten in a bloody pulp by her spouse, someone is being murdered or a person is starving on the street? Then you abandon them by choosing to divert your precious resources to a dog & have the gall to tell us you're doing "God's work?" You seriously do not want us to believe that do you?

    I wholeheartedly believe as an abuse survivor myself that ANY abuse to a human OR an animal is terrible & should not be tolerated. But I would hesitate to say you are doing "God's work" when you choose to put God's own children - your brothers & sisters in Christ - by the way side to care for animals.

    Justice, I do not wish to be rude, but the tone of your posts here tell me that you are nothing more than troll spreading humaniac propaganda. I'm sorry about Gage, but the sad, bad fact of the matter is the owners are as much at fault as their crazy neighbor. If they'd have kept their "brother" up in a proper manner, quieted his noise making to reduce the aggravation of the neighbor & basically watched out for him like proper, caring "parents," he'd be alive today.

    JMHO.

    RIP Gage. :(
     
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  12. Bullyson

    Bullyson CH Dog

    Jesus, Mary and Joseph. I'll have the turkey sandwich on PETA bread please. Justice, I'm afraid you picked the wrong forum. This is a GAME DOG forum though there are many PET bull owners here as well. You spouting off about how Gage was ok to be left unsupervised running free in a "fenced" yard just goes to show your ignorance about this breed of dog as a whole. ANY of the high drive breeds need to be properly contained and IMO, the American Pit Bull Terrier is at the top of the list. It sucks that this whole thing went down the way it did, I'll give you that...BUT YOU ARE TAKING THIS TO THE EXTREME. Thats no opinion Ma'am, thats a fact. A dog is a dog, a human is a human. Those lines dont cross...EVER. ABK hit the nail on the head. Why don't you go find an organization to help abused children? I guess there are enough people doing that already in your opinion and the dogs are the ones being railroaded huh? :rolleyes: You are never going to win this one. There are thousands of forums for people like you. Unfortunately for you, this isn't one of them. YIS, DJ.
     
  13. I definetely agree...This forum is not for me or any of the other thousands of supporters that we have...You people are whacked! At least I am doing something about the problem that people like you cause...And the world is afraid of PITBULLS...They need to visit this forum and see how you all react to a tragic event such as Gage and they too would agree...IT IS THE HUMAN BEINGS THAT WE MUST BE FEARFUL OF....

    I dont think there is much else to say except it takes all kinds and you people here are definetely on the other end of the spectrum when it comes to compassion for animals or the people who are suffering after loosing a very much LOVED companion...Yes that would be Gage. You people are relentless and cruel and I am done here...Game Dog????? What I gather from this "forum" is a bunch of I know more than you do people who "LIKE THEIR ANIMALS"..not love...but LIKE.....

    I honestly feel sorry for ALL!!!!
     
  14. simms

    simms CH Dog

    I dont need or want your pitty,sympathy or empathy.

    Sherry W. Kidwell, you twisted off on some crazy ass shit an your still doing it.
     
  15. Crystal621

    Crystal621 Big Dog

    Please, I don't need your sympathy.

    I DO love my animals. I provide the utmost care for them; shelter, food, health care, exercise, containment...etc etc
    I chain them too, but at least they're still here.

    I DO have compassion for animals, hence why I am a tech, going to vet school soon, and rescue.

    I DO my part to change peoples minds, and it's in the real world. Not posting stories about other people's business all over the internet. I fight BSL every chance I get; whether it be going to town meetings or writing letters. I take (some) of my dogs out for the public to meet and learn about the breed. I HAVE changed minds. There are others here who do the same.

    Do NOT tell me I cause the problem. Or any one else here for that matter. We take the responsibility to keep our dogs OUT of the news (for anything negative that is).
     
  16. You know what....All you people who preach about chaining your dogs EVEN WITH A FENCED IN YARD.....do you think your dogs enjoy being chained....If so...why don't you chain your stupid asses for a couple hours and see how you like it!!!! Do you have any idea what issues that chaining a dog can cause..Aggression for one...SEEN IT! Oh...I forgot...I'm talking to a bunch of ANIMAL EXPERTS HERE!!!!

    NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  17. Oh how your ignorance shows in just one sentence...And I know based on your comment that you are one of the wonderful people out there that would let a dog rot on the end of a chain rather than do something...MEDIA HUNGRY???? She didn't ask for the media....SHE saved Doogies life if only for a short time she showed him love and she gave "Doogie" the best for the short time he lived....Don't talk about what you DONT KNOW ABOUT!!!!!
     
  18. simms

    simms CH Dog

    I think you are beyond having a rational discussion.
     
  19. ABK

    ABK Rest In Peace

    Excuse me Justice, but I take great offense to your last post. How did I cause any problem?? What did I do? I ...

    ... keep my dogs properly contained ...

    ... get my dogs out into public to show people what good dogs they can be ...

    ... rescued starving dogs off the street & even bought abused dogs from worthless owners to get them out of their situation ...

    ... work my dogs in conformation & weight pull in all-breed shows to prove to people they are NOT horrible monsters who are good for nothing but fighting ...

    ... am working on CGC titles for my dogs ...

    So what problem have I caused ...? Please tell me, I'd like to know.

    The fact is, no one here blew sunshine & rainbows up your hiney like you wanted them to & it made you mad. I'm sorry to disappoint, but the folks here are responsible, down to earth, dog owners; not some care bear crew who thinks dogs are people in fur suits.

    BTW, in closing I do LOVE my dogs thank you very much. How do you come onto this site & tell me I don't love my dogs? You don't even KNOW me. I just recently spent $1700 - $1700 that could pay for MY doctor visits & MY medications that I need - to send one of my ill dogs to the top university hospitals in our area.

    I could have just let him die b/c I need to go to my doctor appointments every 3 - 6 mos & I need my meds (about $400 worth per month!) for my seizure disorder, but I forsook that to get him well. Now I'm struggling to pay my doctor bills & can't afford one of my seizure meds. So don't you DARE get on here & tell me I don't love my dogs!

    Lord please forgive me for saying this, but Justice if you & I were face, I would have slapped the taste out of your mouth for having the gall to say I don't love my dogs, esp. since you don't know me, don't know my dogs & don't know my situation! :mad:

    Marty, do us all a favor & please toss this hateful troll!

    (P.S. Justice if you want to do some of God's work, how about mailing me a $273 check so I can get my Depakote this month? I could sure use it! lol. Sorry, I forgot, I'm not a dog.)

    (P.P.S. Gamedog.com members - please forgive me this angry & personal outburst. I usually do not do this, but Justice just got on my last nerve!)
     
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  20. simms

    simms CH Dog


    We know she (dogs deserve better) stole that dog. infact if you do a search in the archives you can find the info.
     
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