male Pat and my Leopard APBT bitch

I'm thinking about getting a male Pat Terrier to go with my bitch. I don't know much about this breed they seem like a tough dog. I wondering if anyone has any experience with this? Can he hold his own with my APBT mix? She's game and tough as they come won't hesitate to mount a male. I want another dog and it has to be a top notch breed. So I was thinking a Pat would be good, they have to be serious if they go after Badgers, right? So in a nutshell will this dog keep from getting bullied? I've heard they think they are invincible also it seems like I won't have to worry about my bitch getting pregnant as much as I would if I got another male APBT. Although that could produce some little demons

 

big difference in thinking your invincible and holding your own against a dog 4 times your size... doesnt sound to good so far.

 

There are so many things wrong with this post. If you have to randomly worry about your dog getting pregnant you shouldn't own another dog until you can prevent that. There are enough cross breed pitbulls out there now, one of which you obiously already own as a APBT x Catahoula. These little dogs aren't for everyone. They can be more than a handful.

Regards,

B

 

get rid of the dogs and buy a cat.:cool:

 

You didn't answer my question at all, instead what you did was jump to a foolish assumption and cast judgment on me. I'm an intelligent adult and have enough sense to raise my dogs properly. If you have female dog and a male dog and neither of them are spaded are neutered than you have to handle them in a manner so that they don't produce puppies together. If I have another APBT I'm assuming i'd have to be even more careful in that regard. However with a Pat it seems like it would be easier. Either way I'm not having my dog get pregnant and I don't need you to reprimand me. I love my cross breed dog and am totally glad that I was blessed with such a mix.
All I want is some insight as to how these dogs are from people that have owned them, not a misguided lecture.
Thankyou

 

If you already have a bulldog, the last thing you want is a "tough" second dog that will "hold it's own" with your bitch. If anything, you want a submissive second dog- not a challenger. That said, I wouldn't recommend getting another pet at all if you already have a bulldog, they're just generally not good with other dogs.

 

It isn't misguided just because you don't agree with it. Why ask an opinion if you don't want to hear it? You don't sound even partially ready to own a working dog as serious as a Patterdale. You said in your own post above that you think you wouldn't have to worry about your bitch getting pregnant because a Patterdale isn't an APBT. It is still a male dog that is going to try everything and anything to couple with your bitch when she's in season. You would hopefully take the same safeguards regardless of the breed you intend on buying. Fix your dog and you won't have to worry about it. Why isn't it fixed already unless you plan on breeding it?

You have obviously never owned gamedogs if you toss the term around lightly. Mounting a male has nothing to do with gameness or toughness.

This top notch breed should belong in responsible working homes. You seriously think that you won't have to worry about your bitch getting pregnant because it isn't an APBT? An unaltered male and female dog will copulate and in your case produce more mutts! Sounds like a fantastic idea. :rolleyes: Again, why isn't your dog fixed unless you plan on breeding it?

Read your own post. These are hunting dogs, not lap dogs. The problem with all working breeds is that ignorant folk who don't work them buy them and expect them to be little perfect dogs. Working dogs have drive to do their jobs. It's no wonder why so many dogs end up in shelters when their owners have problems dealing with an animal that "digs everywhere", "chases anything with fur/feathers", or "attacks other dogs". It is a working breed. I had trouble finding a Patterdale pup because once I told most of the idiots sticking dogs together that I planned on digging with them they decided that wasn't what their dogs are about. This same breeder also told me that she had to put down a female Pat because it "chased everything" and "dug up their backyard". I ran away as quick as possible! I wanted a small compact working terrier. These dogs belong in working homes. Spay your dog and then rescue another one from the local pound. I'm sure there are already plenty of terriers there from people that weren't ready to buy one. Enough people are already ruining the modern working terriers.

If you still really want to own a Patterdale perhaps my advice to you would be to find people that hunt in your area and go dig with them. That's a minimum before you decide if that's the kind of work you want to commit to. That is what you get when buying a working go-to-ground terrier.

Regards,

B

 

i hope u dont get a patterdale lol

u should have said.. im thinking of getting a patterdale to go out diggin and get foxes.

my patterdale.. always trys to hump any dog or bitch regardless of size.. sometimes it distracts him from hunting.. he is very stubborn and will keep trying all day. one of the reasons i struggle to get him to run with other dogs or bitches.. he just wants to hump then a fight starts..

i broke up 4 serious fights with him already. when i put him in a cage with other dogs.. first thing he does is go behind the other dog or bitch and humps them.. regardless of sex.. fought 2 patterdales already when i put him in a cage at the back of the ute .. i put him in.. patts dont take shit so 6 sec later.. really only 6 sec i quickly opened the gate and pulled him out cos bog fight started ..that was a female patt.. same thing when he was put with other male patt.. straight away they fought, and messed up another jack russel as they were working a fox to ground whe nthey came out i dont know what happened boom there was a fight. and he bled abit of his face.. problem is when the dog bites him he fights hard.. like he grabs them and starts shaking..

he is hard to kennel.. and so far i have failed to kennel to patterdales together.. 2 patts that dont know each other. be nice to see it lol.

the other patts i had would fight other dogs straight away. were worse.. aint no way u gonna put them together with other dogs lol. and also they were one man type of dogs lol

cross the patterdale out of ur list.. get a cat

 

when we shot a fox yesterday and he got in to it .. i swear i almost thought i would have to get a breaking stick to get himm off the fox.. he grabbed it like a pitbull would grab.. i mdead serious.. i was shocked..i really was.. cos when i used play with him and give him something he wouldnt grab it and hold it and the jagd terrier would hang/hold ... now with the fox i grabbed the fox and tried to pull it out of him there was no way he was letting it go.. i shook it ass hard as i can.. i wanted to get the fox and put it on the back of the ute .. he didnt want to.. so i lifted the fox with him holding and i thought he woudl lose a grip if i shake it HARD.. no way.. i couldnt. i tried agan and again he was just flying in the air holdig the fox.. i dropped the fox i said FUCK. looked at my mate laughing/puzzled. he said pull the dog not the fox.. i tried that nothing.. so i said good boy good boy patted him on the head i said no no and pulled it out slowly.. then he released.. havent seent hat kind o grip before lol lockjaws lol .. he gonan be one hard dog. his parents killed many foxes down the den.

 

Good posts blackpoison. This is not a dog for normal "pet" people. I would bet 90% of the people on this board have never even handled a gamedog, let alone a working go-to-ground terrier. There is far too much "pet" attitude and that's the problem nowadays with APBT and working terriers. Own them and use them or else find a toy breed. These dogs aren't toys. They first of all, work, and the rest is just icing on the cake...

Regards,

B

 

hey there blackpoison my little nuttalls bitch try's to hump things too, especially my leg lol

 

mine did it to me too, i beat the shit out of him, he never did it again. Haha.

 

your female mounting another male doesnt make it game... lol

 

My bitch's mother is game breed. Her father is a working Catahoula, a serious working breed. Not for novice owners.
People cross the two all the time with great results. You think I'm going to let a male dog romp around with my bitch when she is in heat? Spading and neutering can shorten an animals lifespan contrary to popular belief, I'm certainly not cutting a male dogs balls off. Why else would I get a serious working breed if I didn't intend to put it to use. You get a high drive dog such as a APBT, Patterdale Terrier or Leopard dog and fail to provide it with its proper outlet the results will be disastrous. Hell even Petbulls need a task. I go after Deer with my dog, we get ground hogs, coons, rabbits and squirrels and foxes. If it wasn't against the law I would put some serious thought in testing her in a match. My dog needs these activities to stay sane. I went on a little trip my bro wanted to keep her for a couple of days, long story short he failed to let her blow off her steam and came home one day to find a big ass hole chewed through his door. Don't underestimate the amount the drive of a Leopard/APBT cross. She digs and would tear up all kinds of shit if she didn't have an outlet, you all know how intense the APBT. Mix that with the Catahoula and you have a crazy dog. With that said I obviously feel I can take on another dog, I think I would know more than you all know about my priorities and what I can and can not do. A small hunting dog like a Pat would go nice with my Kila, they could get a lot done. Once again all I really was looking for is insight on this breed, how you think it would get along with an APBT cross. What I can expect etc not absurd assumptions on my dog handling skills. I would get another APBT but for one that'd be more food. I feed my dog raw with a little kibble, I don't really want to spend that. A Pat would be much easier to feed. Two I still think having another APBT would be a bit more trouble its a bigger dog, three Pits can excel in anything but fighting and hunting are a bit different.

 

Let's see some pics of your leopard-dog mix with those groundhogs, coons, and foxes :rolleyes:
oh, and it's to spay a bitch, or a spayed bitch- not spade, spaded, or spading :thumbsup:

 

My man, I'm not sure wtf you're talking about here, but whatever it is, it's not good. Oh, and you really shouldn't feed raw bones and kibble at the same time. It has to do with digestion rates. There's a search feature on this site where you're sure to find more info on proper feeding. Good luck

 

This is a very entertaining thread.... I didn't notice capsulecorp stating that he/she feeds bones, they only stated raw... no specifics.... But Capsulecorp, the experts on this forum 9/10 times know there shit but give it to you raw. At the end of the day it's your decision. whether you intend to have the Pat or not.

 

If somebody's feeding raw and not giving bones they're probably better off with ol'roy

 

it is his choice at the end..

and capsulecorp.. there r some patts with alot of bull blood in them. do ur research and get some of that if thats what u like..

got to the hunting life forum.. plenty of people there work their patterdales..

good luck, show us some diggin pix in the future with ur patterdale.. its a lot of fun

 

If you 'run' deer with a dog you are breaking the law, and can get jail time if your caught. Not joking.