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This is the real deal

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by stratos9, Apr 2, 2011.

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  1. kayo45

    kayo45 Top Dog

    You still not answering any of the questions none of those questions with you hanging shit on pedsonline and contradicting yourself on frisco and el negro dogs and why you went out and went tg. Should be easy to answer to shut me up.
     
  2. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=95781

    real slow...i bred to him naturally (one), my buddy bred to him naturally (two) and we bought a brood bitch and bred to him (three)....i am not a copy and paster but here goes...look at this pedigree and picture....then pull up the pedigree of dynomite...and then back to the pedigree of frisco....and then tell me how far that apple fell from the tree....the dynomite off spring we are seeing (caballo and henry).and the dogs just coming out off of caballo look just like rusty...perform just like rusty...the phenotype is a given...but any two lines can "look" like one another...but when a certain dog is on a yard...and the "famous" dog starts throwing dogs that not only look and act like that certain dog, but they perform like that certain dog....well i have to believe that "certain" dog is swimming in that gene pool....
    b ut like i said, i could care less...the dogs from there are getting better and picking speed....the paperwork is just something to talk about....US1






     
  3. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    and although rusty is half another line on his pedigree, he too looked just like his pops...straight cottingham....US1
     
  4. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    i have never doubted frisco produced good dogs...the ones we had were fair...just not high percentages...i have never crapped on frisco or his crosses....the original post was about dynomite's breeding....based on what i have seen off frisco from years back til now, and what dynomite looks like and what he is throwing...it is a huge difference....i never said anything negative about frisco or his camp....and yes, to question a dog's breeding is border line disrespectful, and for that i will offer my apologies...but will just beg to differ in what is registered and what everything appears to be....
    that camp has done and continues to do great things for everything bulldog....much respect for that....but taking everything into account i tend to believe the rusty version on the dynomite pedigree...US1




     
  5. stratos9

    stratos9 Banned

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=154154

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=261716
     
  6. stratos9

    stratos9 Banned

  7. ChDynomite

    ChDynomite Top Dog

    Thanks for the kind words Slim. With that being said i dont see how u think rusty looks like Reb. RUsty looks just like the dogs off of ART(his bottom side). Reb looks more like Bear. Dynomite Pulled nothing like those dogs and neither do his offsring. I can see how someone can say Dyno and Rusty look alike but i can say that about alot of dogs off of totaly different lines. Stratos < Dyno And Redman jr look nothing alike.........I actually have many pictures off all those dogs. They have been side by side many of times. Redman jr produced average. Dont get me wrong i had plenty of acomplished animals off of Redman jr none worked liked the Dyno dogs. We had Durants whole yard, so i think we would know how the cottingham dogs work and look compared to the frisco stuff. Who would know better me or u guys? I think we all know the answer to that! Its just crazy how u guys really believe that their so similar. I just dont get it. Ur arguments would work with someone else but in this case ur dealing with someone who had both yards in the palm of my hand. Plus i got to pet alot of the camII dogs also.;)None like Dyno or his offspring. I dont know what competative sport u use ur dogs for but i us mine for boar hunting and Weight pull so that could be the difference in opinions.:)
     
  8. stratos9

    stratos9 Banned

    Ch. Dynomite I have always respected you telling the truth about (any) line, seems we have a stalemate so I look at this (either) way I have waited about 9 months and skipped over about 3-4 breedings with my "Walker" dog, so a friend gave me a Boomerang/Spike female which was what "I" wanted. The Spike will kinda keep it line if your right about the Ch. DYNO dog and I've never had much luck with tight Boomerang offspring, but have with 1/4 out to the Art's "MISSY" stuff. Which Spike & Chinaman both run back to the "Snooty" blood.

    Like I said before I don't feel comfortable to try to figure out a Linebreeding with my dog, so I will see what happens with a similar outcross, remember Boomerang & Missy again were (supposely) Littermates.LOL.

    Now what will it tell us if 3 or 4 Rednose come from this litter....We should be in agreement that it would not come from the Female. Or are we???

    Thanks, and today is my wifes and mine 39th anniversary & her Birthday, so got to get to work on making this day special.
     
  9. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    we are at a stalemate...i see russ/TVK stuff in dynomite and again in Caballo and Henry...both phenotype/genotype....and the dogs off Caballo are one in the same...so we will agree to differ....so when you had access to all the C'ham dogs where were you??? Because we would have had to cross paths....and when D. sold everything but the last one where did they go???? what camp bought the entire yard???? US1




     
  10. ChDynomite

    ChDynomite Top Dog

    The Hites (Danny and Steph)
     
  11. ChDynomite

    ChDynomite Top Dog

    what u tryin to call my bluff? LOL! i was right in front of ur glasses.
     
  12. ChDynomite

    ChDynomite Top Dog

    [​IMG][​IMG]to me dyno and nigerino look alike
     
  13. ChDynomite

    ChDynomite Top Dog

    [​IMG]Rusty the cottingham/eli dog
     
  14. ChDynomite

    ChDynomite Top Dog

  15. stratos9

    stratos9 Banned

  16. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    not trying to call a bluff...could care less...but we must have crossed paths...and i agree there is a physical resemblance to nigerino, but mostly just the black in the face...i have only seen two 'sure enough' nigerino dogs and they were similar...so i will 'assume' they are a pretty good example of nigerino blood...i have seen numerous frisco dogs and several off dynomite...they look different and act different differently...the frisco dogs do not bring the intensity and pressure of the dynomite dogs (and not that i have seen them all but enough to get an indicative assumption of what the line can bring)....but i guess the kicker would be that if the TVK/C'ham dogs never made their way to that homestead i would not make the assumption...but if nigerino lived there and the dogs looked like nigerino and then performed like nigerino and then their offspring acted and performed like nigerino...the same discussion would present itself just with a different cast....it falls in the line of, "if it looks like a duck, and quacks likes a duck, swims like a duck and eventually taste like a duck....i would not invite you over and pass it off as a chicken sandwich...but that is just me....US1
     
  17. ChDynomite

    ChDynomite Top Dog

    well! i dont know what pond u were swimming in but it wasnt the same one as me. U couldnt possibly analize either line better than someone who has more experience with those lines. Thats like me telling a head chef i can manage a resturant kichen better than him.
     
  18. ChDynomite

    ChDynomite Top Dog

    I know Kayo< its like beating a dead horse bro!
     
  19. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    not a truer statement has been said...i will bail on the topic....still see the TVK in those dyno dogs but i will leave it at that....to each his own....the Caballo kids (TVK look a likes) will be in a theatre near you...come on out and check them out....they will make anyone proud....US1




     
  20. Yardboy

    Yardboy CH Dog

    Everybody knows Dyno's daddy is really Hap ROM mmaaaaaaaannn! Lol.
     
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