People are talking about pure gene pools, let me show you a real pure dog

Thanks letsmakestuffup, I've read that before. With all them big words I'd have to read through it several times and its hard to sit still that long. lol

 

Mate,

Ive always admired your dogs and family line. Your breedings go way back and i congratulate you on keeping it real. But the thing that pisses me off, is trying to get hold of some of your breedings. a few around here that have some of your dogs are as tight with them as a virgins crack.

No offence, but i think ive found something a lot more active and certainly not a nightmare to get hold off. Yor bloodlines are great, but not that great, that you cant aquire anything off it.

 

Luckystrike thank you for the comp, and good for you to have found something you like....

 

Limey...from the last two bottom pics...how were those dogs bred?

 

rustler was the man

 

I'm just an old man from Louisiana, now living in Texas. Your photos brought back some wonderful memories...of good times and good dog men. I lived right down the road from Mr. Floyd and some of mine were were out of his blood and the rest I got from Maurice's yard in Texas. Well you can imagine the rest as to what kind of dogs came from that motley bunch.
The reason I write to you Limey, is that I may have seen one of 'Alligator's' matches at Carver's place, but I'm not completly sure it was him. I *do* remember being told the black dogs top was Tudor's 'Nigger' and the bottom was one of Maurice's scatter-bred bitches. And he was one big-ass dog,too. IIRC he won at around three-quarters of an hour, and I've since been told that if that wasn't 'Alligator' it was his twin brother.
I've seen some of the best dogs and shook hands with their breeders and owners, but I have to tell you that 'black dog' was and still is the single most powerful dog I have ever seen. And I have seen some real monsters.
On a humorous note, many years later I was talking to a few "real" dog men when 'Alligator's' name came up. One old Cajun gentleman said that the dog was one of those APBT canine rarities, that is the longer the match, the stronger he became. The man's son said, "Yep. One match they'd been scratching for about a half-hour, and it was the other dogs turn to go across when the black dog started going crazy, screaming and twisting and just raisin' pure hell trying to get away! He even bit his handler! So I said ,"Well that can't be the first time a dog did that." The old man said, "I agree with you. But I"ve only seen this level of intense gameness and raw power once, prior to this match. And it just so happens it too was a black dog. Went by the name "Bullyson." His son adds,"Yes sir, that black dog just went all Bullyson on his (the handler) ass. So I said, "Either that or those 'black' dogs were bred then put here by aliens." Everybody stopped walking and looked at me, and I made a whole 3 seconds before I bust out laughing. A few more seconds and some of us were rolling around in the dirt, gasping for breath.....wow, a couple of tears just ran down my cheeks.
Thank you and bless you Limey, for the long ago memories

Theo
PS MY best male was out of Miss Pat's favorite dog. He was pure "Stompanato." My little bitch was sired by (Shivars) Loposays "Buster."

 

Teo Thats awesome to have seen Alligator in person. as it is >Today< we made this breeding Both male and female are very inbred ore tightbred on Alligator blood with carver and Eli influenses.
Here is the male 55lbs alligator sized beast.

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( missing part in the males pedigree above http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=210425 )
we belive this is as heavy bred Alligator you can get. The Bitch Hammonds Dalotta(aka 6,5k on paper is the tightest ore purest(68 1/2%) bred Alligator dog in the usa with her littermates. Nice to see this topic brought back some memmories for you.

PS mayfields Nigger
I wonder where that tanish on the male(above) we used came from on the legs and around the mouth.... clearly the picture of Nigger is bleachst and ore are sun shade deflections..
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ps i compleatly screwed up with that breeding ped we made
the male http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=328280

this is the bitch http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=457978

 

Whats up Limey? I tried to sent you a message, but it said your inbox was full. Can you shed some light on this dog and his lineage for me? ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [25747] :: GWOLF'S & RUIZ BULLIT

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Bullit was a littermate brother to the best dog we ever owned and bred the Magic dog. Bullit was a plug . but toughf as nails. we took him along to the usa on one of our trips together with King Gator and the tracy bitch. he produced from what i heard some outstanding dogs. good lookers as wel!!. he himself was very undershot and not so strange if you see how he is bred. Altho his Sire is NOT Bulletje but the Terror dog....

 

Oh ok I have a granddaughter to him is my reasoning for asking. I wasn't aware he was off Terror. Good to know though. My gyp is off this male bred to an Emile female. ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [285071] :: | PINERO |

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I still don't know how you clame to have the tight alligator blood with all of the out you have had to use. We still have this and offspring off him?

ONLINE PEDIGREES PEDIGREE STATISTICS :: D&C GAMEDOGS TRAIN :: [197776]

 

If there are more of Bulit,s ofspring around and ore close bred to him . i would snatch them if i were you..

 

I would think hammonds would have the tighest alligator blood on the planet since he is still breeding dogs....

Nice ped gilligan. I like that nigerino dogs looks alot.

 

I like your dogs too limey, them black and tans are good lookers.

 

The one dog you keep posting is a tri color though not a black n tan, or are my eyes decieving me.?

 

i dont know what the world is coming too......... lol!

Alligator was a deep game monster with hybrid vigour to boot. IF any dog claims to walk in his shadow let them walk the walk.....

Alligator was impressive for what he did in his style. Inbred S.O.B off alligator are a waste of a chain spot unless your planning to stick them to a big bitch to throw something worth feeding. Damn all these tight bred small ass dogs. Aint worth the keep if it 50+ dry and 58lbs wet.

Limey got the closest hound to rival Alligator. Stacking dead dogs into any bloodline will get you piss poor pooches that a good cross would snap in two. Anything under 44lbs dry is for the birds.

This animal would rival Alligator and wouldnt let him walk away lightly..... bred the same with a unknown on the bottom.

Virtualpedigree

 

aint worth the keep if it AINT 50+dry & 58lbs wet...... correction

 

If you have done your home work about breeding, then you might have known that pedigree statistics are JUST THAT. Hens i said that Miss Dalotta is the tightest bred Alligator dog in the USA (wel was as she is no longer in the usa). % wize ON PAPER.

Now pedigree statistics dont mean f..kall. Its the trowback gene pool in the dogs you breed on ore for, that detirmin the purety of the dogs in question.
I have said hunders of times that. A 25% alligator dog can be mutchs purer dog then a 75% alligator dog. If the trowback of the 25% dog is right and the trowback of the 75% alligator dog is OF!!!!!!.
Hensh Type behavier and coloration selection prosses wil keep help you closer to the dogs your aiming for.
Hensh NR2 when you DONT practis these (in) breeding technics you wil get dogs that SHOOT PAST your goal and draw out or up the dogs PRIOR to the dogs your aiming at.. and thats how the cooky crumbles. Reading dogs is mutch mutch more importend then reading pedigrees.. on claiming pure bred dogs who are pure bred on paper...

Ecsperience has shown us that when you DISREGUARD the breeding tool type behavier and coloration. You are able to breed mutch mutch tighter PEDIGREES. and wil reach your goal where your dogs start to show degenaration mutch LATER.
Then when you DO use these breeding technics.

HENSH nr 3 you need to OUT cross more often. because purety and tighten up blood comes way sooner ore quiker then you ecspect as with these breeding tools you REDUCE genetic VARIATION...
You might understand afther reading this that there are manydiferend ways to Rome, In other words there are diferend ways in breeding pure dogs...... Ours is one of them and the record speaks.....

 

Ok not going to get into this not arguing or any of that we don't post peds so can't show anything other than old peds but we have a dog name Spaid and some old sofiakis blood.
Your doing good with what u have. I like how u breed had a few dogs off you and I can say I wish I had one of th back.