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an eye for a good pup

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by hnelson, Mar 16, 2012.

  1. 87buick

    87buick Top Dog

    Some of the best working dogs were suppose to be bad pets. Yes the kennels I trained at used dogs from the pound. Kinda reminds me of Gr Ch Buck. They had owners who had no clue how to handle a high strung animal. My lab was a bad pet that got that chance to prove himself worthy of saving lives. I loved that fucker!
     
  2. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    I feel the same way Icepick ,I would rather take my chances with a pup.
     
  3. olrts

    olrts Banned

    i like the shy stuff, no matter why but until now all of my buyed shy dogs turn real good
     
  4. the.peon

    the.peon Top Dog

    Over the years i've gotten good dogs, and pups that turned out to be good dogs....I've also gotten pups that turned out to be not worth their feed as they matured, and good dogs that I acquired as adults that were in the same boat. I believe that you can improve your odds on picking a good pup if you know the parents, and ancestory in, and out, and know what to look for in them....however I do not believe you can consistently pick the best of the litter as just young pups (which I hope nobody here thinks they can do). Buying older dogs or pups is always a gamble, but you can turn the percentages in your favor if you take the time to get close with the blood you want to work with, and more importantly the people you choose or choose not to work with. As has been said over, and over again the folks you choose or the ones that chose to let you in to the dogs play a pivotal role in the dogs you acquire.

    Depend on what you consider good.
     
  5. bumper

    bumper Pup

    the runt, he has to fight for everything...
     
  6. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    I was always taught to take one from the middle of the pack..I havent always done that..I have taken the biggest, the middle, and the runts.Its a gamble either way.
     
  7. stickler

    stickler Banned

    I just wanna show some respect to 87buick for his posts in this thread.
    Thank you and good luck.
    We don't get always what we want, but sometimes we get enough of what we need.
    Just keep an open mind and let the good things find YOU.
     
  8. x2 a healthy runt
     
  9. fed

    fed Pup

    good answer!
     
  10. hempjocsorrlby

    hempjocsorrlby Big Dog

    I think somebody said this but you really want to look at the parent or the grandparent who was what you want in your dog and pick the pup that looks the most like them, no offense to anybody, I like what true culling said but in all reality dogs are bred on DNA, so if you have a litter where boomerang is the grand parent and you pick the one that looks just like him, 90% of the time he is gonna do basically what boomerang did as a example. JM experience
     
  11. lansford101

    lansford101 Banned

    its common sense i think is wht true culling is saying pick the healthy ones with good attitude and a strong body and who are close what what u like in a dog thats the best you can do is all or just raise a hole litter of pups and take the best from the litter and cull or hunt wth the rest
     
  12. I'm keeping all the males in my litter, what would I have to do to find out who is the best producer out of all 5 of them. Is there no other way but to breed them all. Funny I know
     
  13. You should pick the pup that you like best and pleases your eyes since you will have to feed it. Because a pup looks like some dog doesn't mean it will be like that dog, in my experience I learned that is some simple fantasy people say. The person who picks on physical traits I believe is doing good since it's all you can go by on a pup. Attitude or dominance will change as a pup matures so I don't believe it makes much difference.
    What I have observed is that a person will pick a pup thinking it's the best and that pup will get more attention thereby making it a better dog sometimes. If the litter is yours leave them together and the one they all gang up to kill is the most dominant. If I culled all the second or third pick pups I would have culled some of my best dogs so I don't believe in culling pups.
     
  14. Grabo86

    Grabo86 Big Dog

    You also cant do that shit here in germany and rightfully so.
     
  15. Lee D

    Lee D CH Dog

    rightfully so?
     
  16. TDK

    TDK CH Dog Staff Member

    TRUE CULLING: Simply by virtue of your handle, you lose a tad of credibility with me, but that's another story. First of all, you use the word "assume", and that is something we cannot do with infant pups. So, let's "CULL" that word from picking a pup.
    You allude to breeding a mama/papa trait to another mama/papa trait to improve said issue. If you know a thing about genetics, you would know that more often than not, by a large percent, breeding two separate traits will revert to the average of both. This is in reference to your "hide" conjuring.
    Gringo is right, and to paraphrase in my own words, to "assume" anything at all with an infant pup, or even a young dog, is a fool's game. There isn't a thing an infant pup, or even a very young pup can show you as to what kind of dog it will eventually be. The exceptions being, apparent mental and physical health and relative normality therein. Bone and skin? They change with maturation and care, to include good nutrition etc. You get what the genetics have given you, and you maintain what is given the best you can. But you can't tell much if anything about how they will manifest until you see them mature, under good care.
    If a pup is mutated or deformed, yes, cull that pup for it's own good as well as yours, most often.
    My suggestion to ANYONE, is to pick one you like looking at, because it's all there is within a pup. You're not going to find one meaningful thing about them, other than as I mentioned, normal mental and physical health. The rest, to me, is plain voodoo.
    If you like the outward acting one, the first to see you and be friendly with you, the one who is first to the feed bowl, the headstrong one in the brood box, so be it. You're the one living with it for the rest of its life. But it's best left at that. If you are looking at them to project their futures, you're being foolish.
     

  17. No truer word have been spoken........
     
  18. ursaminor

    ursaminor Top Dog

    I mean if this breeding will be the foundation of your yard why not keep em all and see how they turn out?
     
  19. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    sir/dame is the first thing we look at. then the grandparents if possible. the litter normally will carry a family avg between the offspring . try to stay away from "blind purchases" as much as possible. if your getting just one pup without knowledge of the family it's up to that individual to " man make" that dog & hope it can produce.
     

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