performance freaks

No, B C was not a freak, he was an ace. When on the head he was an artist, when foul or in the stifles he was badass, but would take the front end or throat when it suited him and finish. His finish is what set him apart from the crowd, but what made me love him was in three contracts and twice against conditioned dogs, he made every dog except Carver's Hardtimes look silly. Even when he was almost dead he found a way to beat Hardtimes. No turns, out of holds for 20 seconds at over two hours, scratched almost blind on 2 1/2 wheels to win at 2:34, Hardtimes having collapsed in the center on his scratch at 2;33. Neither ever made the slightest turn or bad move ever, B C truly never thought he wasn't the king, Mister fast and furious.
Even before he was hooked the first time his list of rolls sounds like a who's who of old History, easily handling ch. Blitz, a brother to Bull Boy Bob; Ali, a brother to Tonka; Snapper, another bro to Tonka and the grandfather to Kenny Allens Ch Robert T: ch Hooter for money roll, son of Stu Fowler; winn's TJ (Sorrell's Red Neck, son of ch Shaft) the dog that beat Grider's Duker ( son of Bolio).
A freak, no. Just the best dog i ever touched.

 

Actually, Irish Tim and Tom were two very different guys, I didn't know Tim but Tom was a great guy. Justice lived with me most all his life, I owned outright or co-owned him with my buddies from 7 months until just a few months before he was shipped to Taiwan. He was Morgan's Toro as a puppy. Kaczmarek bought him from Morgan and Dave and I bought him from Kacz. I schooled and conditioned Justice. After his two shows we had trouble getting him hooked again, the only dog i ever had that trouble with.
I bred him to my Diamond bitch Sunny I got from the Chavez brothers and to Little Liz, aka Dizzy Lizzy ( Bad Company to Big Liz). Tom and I bred her to Rosie Red, a Snoopy bitch I sent to Don B. and Tom bred him to the STP's Bitch for Fiorillo.

 

also bred justice to a jeep bitch for Don B.
Someone is claiming a breeding to a Happy jack bitch I sure don't remember ever taking place.
Maybe my favorite breeding was to Winn's Missy, a great producing daughter of Boomerang. Chris and Billy got a my favorite picks of that litter. At least if I could go back in time that is the one breeding I'd like to touch again

 

bobm what was the ped on BC?


Thanks for the stories.

 

Annie (Bullyson x Bolio's sister Mendincino) was bred to ch Noah (koehler's Bull x Josie)

 

Thanks for the story B

 

Great old history bob and tdk, thanks for the shares...
I mistook Tim and Toms names...

 

BOB M Great Storry Off Your BC, No Turn,s Ore Bad Move ,See Also TDK,s (mike & co,s) CH Shameless id = 36128 and dog id =147610 ,is Justisss x NL X TDK , Oke look STB,s Lu Lu ,2x (MORGA,S TORO) IRISHE TOM JUSTICE 2xW in Her also NL x USA HER OFSPRING .

 

And What You Think off GR CH TROUMED OUT,S O- JAY (5xW) x SHAWN,S B,S PONY GIRL , From The New Name CH SHAWN,S B,S JUSTICE ,IN ONER OF YOUR JUSTICE, RESPECT .

 

Awesome to read stuff like this. I can do this all day long. Lol

 

Thanks for the run down on some of histories finest...
I heard Bells Spice was a beast, is this the original Spice you speak of???

 

No. The original Spice was a brindle gyp off Beau Jean to Meany, a very game bitch who died of parvo when it first appeared.
Bell's Spice was a red nose Sired by Jimmy Jaws (inbred Bolio) bred to Jessie (Snapper x Meany). Jessie was a littermate to Ethyl, ch Robert T's mother. Spice was owned by Hein as a puppy, then schooled and hooked by Mike H. Bell bought her and sold her to Byrd (Bell owned her for one day of her life but was in with the registry and got her put in his name lol) Byrd used her then bred her to a son of Justice. I bought her back from Byrd, hooked her then bred her to Curt's Cowboy to produce Crash and "Betty Boo. I then gave her to my friend Thumper where she lived out her life in luxury.She was actually registered as Hein's Spice but the Bell name stuck for some reason. She lived a generation later than the original Spice.
Just like Spice, Jessie is often confused on paper with Curt's Jessie who I took care of but never owned. She was sired by curt's Bonz out of a tight Bolio bitch. I had bred Curt's Jessie to Cowboy, not my Jessie (who was long dead by then).
The Later Spice was a GOOD honest gyp, not a "beast" but did handle the beasts she met. Went over two hours on all her shows, one time beating a direct daughter of Jeep.
As an aside, the later Spice was a half sister to Tommy Two Toes, the little black dog who killed a son of Hall's ch Carlos, then I sent to PDK who beat gr ch Banjo and gr ch BB Red's brother.

 

Heard Beau Jean himself was very game 3 hour winner over champion of Oklahoma?

 

Thanks for the clear up BobM... So Betty Boo s off Spice???
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: OFFSPRING :: CITYSTREET`S POLLY :: [182545]
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [75699] :: <FONT COLOR=BLUE>ROWDY'S <FONT COLOR=RED> BETTY BOO
The Rooster was a prime example of a bulldog...
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [31263] :: ALAMO'S ROOSTER
Can you add anything on the Dempsey or Dirty Mary dogs from that blood...
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [156134] :: PIERCE'S COCAINE
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: OFFSPRING :: CITYSTREET`S POLLY :: [182545]
Great old blood...

 

Didnt mean to post polly twice but rather Betty Boos differnt peds...
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [107328] :: MONTANO'S BETTY BOO
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [75699] :: <FONT COLOR=BLUE>ROWDY'S <FONT COLOR=RED> BETTY BOO
As far as my studies go back it seems these are the first of the very succesfull cross of the old carver blood to bolio and tombstone lines that later
became more fasionable with dogs like chop chop...

 

Yes, Betty Boo was Crash's littermate out of Spice. I made the breeding and raised both those dogs, so I am sure. It was Candy that was out of Curt's Jessie, she went to Pierce as a puppy. I did not make the breeding of Crash to Candy, so am not 100% certain of it but Crash and Candy's pedigrees are correct, I made the breedings on them myself. Crash to Candy should have been a good breeding.
Do you own dogs down from them?

Along the same type of breedings, the best I believe out of those was Hood, who went my friend Thumper. He was by Cowboy out of my Meggie, (Half sister to Curt's Jessie) Bonz x Patty(a Bull Boy Bob daughter). Yes, I would say Hood was the best.