Any US kennels favoring a terrier-type strain?

Ok, thanks.

 

I think he is right in using the term bully. Thats where the whole American Bully thing came from. AmStaffs define their types as terrier moderate and bully. I assume its the same with Staffys.

 

SIGH LOL, I thought you would know better then that by now CrazyK9, I guess not LOL

 

What? Those are the types. Ask an AmStaff breeder.
I was just saying the bully people didn't invent the term lol

 

I dont know who invented that term but that term is wrong, its like someone saying Terrierly and thinking that is the correct term LMAO

 

Dogs looking good 12 G

 

Correct or not, its still an accepted term. I was trying to find where it originated but no luck.
I looked up types for Staffies and you'll be happy to know I found "bulldog" type instead of "bully" lol

 

Accepted term by whom? LOL The reason you CANT find where it originated from is because its a bullshit made up term like Labradoodle LOL

 

If you say so lol. I've seen it referenced a lot by Staff people.

A member on PBC actually posted a picture from a book going over the standard (AST) that went over terrier, moderate and bully types. I'll have to ask her what book its from and if she knows where it started.

 

Majority of Staff people think just like the Blue Bullys Razorz Edge people LOL.

PBC????? PBC????? Did you say PBC??? LMAO....ah shit, on that note I am done with this topic LMAO.

 

The Illustrated Breed Standard
Body types^

 

I couldnt help but reply to your post because you are so clueless LOL

Oh my goodness child bless your heart LOL. The bully type of body they are reffering to in that text is that of the BLUE BULLY RAZORS EDGE type of dogs. Once again that is a new terminology to describe that specific type or breed of dogs known as BULLYS or BULLIES as they have originated from AmStaffs

The name American Staffordshire Terrier is used by only certain registry's to get away from the infamous term "PitBull"...but by breeding for only Conformation the staffordshire has gone in 3 different directions to wear each body type has become almost a seperate breed. Majority of ALL AMSTAFFS ARE considered BULLIES/BULLYS to a certain degree because they are bred mostly for looks each going in a different direction. When breeding Amstaffs to the most extreme levels of physical retardation they turned into a new breed called BULLYS/BULLIES in which majority of all conformation registries will NOT recognize/accept the BULLY line of dogs anymore, HENCE why they had to start and develop there OWN seperate Registry specifically for this type of Mixed bred Amstaffs CALLED BULLIES/BULLYS.

Even in the pics above they show Blue Bully dogs most likely down from Razors Edge type of dogs from a distant Amstaff lineage. LOL

Get it? If not I am done LOL

 

I'm done too. As much as I want to reply, there's no point. We'll just have to disagree.

I had no intention to get this thread off track. Sorry OP.

 

Hold up, your telling me only now your concerned about going off track after all your posts? LOL If you wanted to reply that much you would of done it because your a stubborn person just like me, the only difference is I am right and you are wrong that is why you did not reply LMAOROTF.

Seriously though my main objective is not to prove your wrong (or is it? LMAO) its to unveil the TRUTH, so that the next generation of the APBT fanciers will know its TRUE History instead of just blindly following along with what ever the (conformation) masses have to say.

The proper term is a Bull Type and a Terrier Type. You cant prove me wrong on that because its the TRUTH.

If you look up the word Bully in the dictionary its meaning is someone picking on a weaker smaller individual which basically is a CUR hence why that name fits the Blue Bully Razors Edge type of dogs because they are all CURS LMAO.

The only people I know using that term Bully/Bullies are conformation people.

No real Dogman would ever use that terminology (Bully) to describe there dogs.

 

I guess that's true. But having run some searches in these forums, it seems a quest that's been discussed ad nauseam without much result (US kennels breeding more athletic/working type Staffords). At the end of the day, it'd be far easier to find a smaller, game-bred APBT.

Yet, setting aside "working type" as a classification and search (maybe a slippery slope in a country where so many fine APBTs can be found), I wondered whether there still might be found a breeder who has maintained, or even bred back to, the terrier-type in the Stafford, much in the same way a Henry Johnson has developed his Redline strain of (hunting) Airedales (a fancy that is going strong despite the predominance of fluffy show Airedales).

 

Some body types of the APBT are more "Bully" (like Cypress), some look more like a "Terrier" (like Pandora).

I added some Redboy to my line by way of using Escobedo as a stud. The pups turned out rangy, like I thought they would.
Escobedo was bred to a dog named Double Time. Double Time has the shorter/wide Bull dog look.
Double Time's sister Pandora has the ol' crocodile jaw. Pandora is also rangy. If I bred Pandora to Escobedo, the dogs would look like whippets.

 

Here is Double Time/Escodedo and a couple of their pups. Some were REAL rangy with the longer muzzle. A few had a shorter muzzle and were less rangy. BTW, I could not be happier with all of them.

 

Nice dogs NorCalTim -- even Cypress doesn't seem to have that "over-done" look some in the show world seem to select for. One of the finest bulldogs I've ever known was a terrier-type bred by Tom Garner out of his Frisco dog (this was in the mid-90's) and that's where my taste has pointed me ever since.

 

I am glad you like them. Each "body type" has its advantages.