Ivomec

What about flea and tick? What is the norm for that? Just the stuff that you apply on the dog, spray?

 

..yep if ya have problems just get a good bug/flea shampoo+spray...

 

Shampoo will not do anything. It will kill what is on them but there is no residual effect. As soon as the are dry there is no protection.

There are many products on the market. I have used them all probably. Depending on what I got free from the drug reps. I used Frontline for years with success when we lived in the country with no neighbors. But we moved to the city and Frontline was useless. In a high flea area it will not work.

I am currently using Parastar. I buy the large dose and split it according to weight. Cheaper in the long run.

 

Is that something that you get from a vet? I always see this spray/soak I think called happy jack? From tractor supply, I suppose the vet's stuff if better.

 

.dogs .never had a big flea problems ...so i would go with above if they had...

 

Yes Parastar is available at the vet. But others are over the counter.

I never had a flea issue. But I keep mine on flea control every month. Sprays and shampoos alone are useless. I live in the south. You have to stay on top of it. Once you get fleas in your environment you will be battling them for months. For every 1 flea you see there are 95 more you don't see.

 

Thanks, it seems like I never see a tick on my dog until I put a treatment on lol. It ticks seem worse in Ohio than fleas, but then again my dog is inside. But even 10 min outside he has ticks! I think that revolution stuff is a scam

 

I use fipronil for fleas and ticks and have had good results even with most of the dogs living in the woods. I keep the yard sprayed also and a perimeter around the yard. Like Cynthia said get on top of it and stay on top of it. Nothing wrong with socializing your dog but use commen sense. Dog parks are a good place to pick up whatevers floating around. Stary animals and even birds and rodents that might travel in your yard can bring in parasites.

 

Seven dust for the yard. Frontline for fleas and ticks works for me. Had an AB with a flea infestation. A dose of frontline later he didn't scratch any more

 

Thanks! Appreciate all of the input!

 

Hey Cynthia baby l missed you LMAO

Been using Ivomec forever and never had any problems with heart worms. Just wondering if you increase the dosage of Ivomec or administer it more often would that help michaels case?

 

All of my dogs got there ivomec like clockwork. It still failed. Like we both stated tho resistance is only an issue in some areas. Pro heart did change some solvents used during manufacturing that were believed to be allergenic. I use an over the counter generic frontline type product. Exact same chemical combo but cheaper. I also buy the largest dose possible then combine them and pull my own dosage per dog.


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Arkansas

 

Good read Cynthia.


Shotgun
Arkansas

 

Yeah man I live in the south, real humid area, less than a mile from swamp land. I always assumed that fleas, ticks and the like would be rabid. I've found that early treatment of the yard and dogs when it's still cool, with follow ups every 2-4 weeks keep them at bay for me. Honestly if I buy 20lbs of DE every month I don't have many probs at all. It's all about location, due to my topography when I first move my dogs I anticipated major problems and tried to address it before hand. Maybe that helped? But 35 miles north of me I keep 3 other dogs and we've tried all the things we use on other yard and none of it worked!! So as far as fleas and ticks, gotta find what works specifically for you and your yard, same with heart worms I'd suppose, living organisms have been known to adapt


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Ahh missed you too Saiy!!! Lol and thanks Treez

Increasing is will not change it. With the 0.10ml per 10 pounds you are already giving more than needed for heartworm prevention.

The correct dose for heartworm prevention is 0.006mg per kilogram. So let's say you have a 50pd dog. His correct dose of Ivermectin for Heartworms would be 0.13mg. The concentration of the 1% Solution that you buy is 10mg per cc/ml. Which breaks down to 1mg per 1/10cc/ml. So you are giving 5mg (0.5ml/cc) and you only need 0.13mg to cover Heartworms. So you are already giving 38.4 times more needed. However as you can see per the Plumbs below giving the 1/10 cc/ml per 10pds you will cover intestinal parasites as well. The 200mcg (0.2mg)/kg.

I have only used the ivermectin once a month for the last year. Since I work in the field I do yearly bloodwork and fecals every 6 months. I do not use another dewormer. Except if I had a litter.

For the past 8 years I lived in the Panhandle if FL. Which everything nasty is here. I will admit that I have used free samples from the drug reps as well. But also have used Ivermectin as well.

From the Plumbs Veterinary Formulary

 

Thanks for that. You say the .10cc per 10lbs is already too much. Enough to do damage, or is that an ok number to go by? I have been using the vet stuff to as of recent, but want to go back to the Ivomec for price reasons. My dog already has addisons disease which kills my wallet as is

 

1/10th of a cc/ml per 10pds is standard. The dose for heartworms is 0.006mg/kg. But as you can see .2mg/kg is for intestinal parasites. And when treating demodex and Sarcoptic mange it is even higher. So still in a safe dosing range. I was pointing out that there was no need to go higher due to the fact that it is already more than enough to cover heartworms.

However with Addison's you are giving fludrocortisone correct? Or are you doing the Percorten-V injections? I texted a Vet I worked with and she said there are no interactions listed for those drugs with Ivermectin.

 

I do the percortin once a month. I got him down to a little over 1ml per month and his blood is good. They had it way higher before and another vet said if anything he may need less. So a 4ml bottle lasts me about 3 months. The most I give is 2ml and haven't had any issues. They originally told me it was kidney failure and we'd have to put him down, then after 1500$ I got another opinion and it took them 10 minutes to say it was addisons. Thanks for the help!

 

Wow. That is crazy. The 1st vet dropped the ball. It shouldn't have cost $1500 and a second opinion. A basic SuperChem would have shown elevated renal values and electrolytes. But if the dog responded to fluid therapy which most acute renal failure patients do not. Then they needed to look deeper.

I have seen good vets suspect Addisons by bloodwork alone and then do a ACTH Stim test to confirm. Without the dog being in a Addisonian crisis. And that test ranges from $120 - $180.

Sorry you had to go through that.