Where are the Snooty dogs?

A reason for having plenty APBT bloodlines that can compliment each other might be due to the out crosses mentioned in post #24; although it's the first time I read about them since I am relatively new. Let's not forget the mentioned out crosses happened long ago and I don't think breeders back then had as many options as breeders have now, so if they didn't go with out crossing they might have been turning in a closed circle of genes.

I don't see anything wrong with outcrossing back then, and maybe in the far future again. If a certain breeder was running a line with relatively small jaw muscle and outcrossed to a breed (somehow) close to the APBT with a larger jaw muscle, i won't expect an immediate litter/s of success, however he has added the larger jaw muscle to his lines genes, and with several generations of selective breeding of the pros of the outcross (jaw muscle) combined with the pros of his original line, he would have successfully added the desired trait (physical or metal) to his line.

So it's not a move to make if you are expecting immediate results from the outcrosed litters ( might get lucky but that would be the exception). In a way I look at it as bloodline outcrossing.

Some of the famous bloodlines if you trace it back to the beginning of the lines, people will be surprised that for several generations the peds dont include any tilted dogs no ch gr ch, POR, Rom etc...and then the success of the line starts pouring out. Why? It's creating the gene pool IMO. Breeders will be selectively breeding and testing without racing their dogs cause for them it's obvious they are not there yet.

again this is a newbie opinion and might be 100% BS, just thought to share.

Regards

 

Lol don't forget that because you don't see the title there doesn't mean that many of those dogs were thoroughly evaluated and proven pit dogs before being bred. Same as today actually

 

A lot of people reg. there dogs as Staff's late 60's early 70's in So. Cal. there was an all out war aginst APBT!

 

There was an enormous difference between a lot of Am.Staffs pre-70's than what there is today, and people need to understand that they were duel registered or registered as Am.Staff's like TROTLINE is saying, when they were in fact game dogs.

Crossing game bred dogs into anything other than game bred dogs will cost a breeder more than he is willing to pay if he is truly looking for game dogs.

 

I've learned from experience and asking high percentage breeders you have A great producer, and don't line breed just keep out crossing you loose it! Best to best in A line bred family, then out cross! then back into that family! Most times tight line bred dogs are very slow starters, people loose patients! Or start second guessing there breeding every generation isn't going to throw A great dog. For me any way most seam to throw back to there third generation. It's A grind unless you want to buy somebody else's stuff and hope it's what you payed for!

 

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I would love to breed to this dog, or get something down from him..

 

Has anyone checked out Humboldt pitbulls. He's advertising OFRN but has a lot of snooty in his Ped. The site is Humboldtpitbulls.com. Real nice looking dogs.

 

Lol they do "look" nice. I've seen him a few times on here talked to him once.

 

I've talked to him a couple times about getting one of his pups.

 

He ask alot for house dogs

 

I wanted breed to him ,but by the time she came in heat he was sold.

 

Are you in Balitmore? I think I sold you a dog years ago and your brother picked him up

 

I think a person I been talking to knows the current owners

 

The old owner told me he went to the Caribbean

 

Wonder how his life journey was, got some European dogs in him!!

 

I would look at him as a redboy-joko/ snooty.