REAL HISTORY OF A LVING LEGEND (reprint)

Hate? Who is the one calling Boudreaux a liar and a thief? no matter keep it up. The more you bang on the less credible your arguments become.

 

for shure it was wort to drive those dogs from Sunnyvale to Lafayette
other wise it was easyer to put them down ..but they where to valueu for that ..both man knew this

 

What I'm saying is that if Don could have just bred to Billy why couldn't Floyd have gone to Don if he wanted his blood? You're making the case that Don could go to Floyd, but Floyd couldn't go to Don? How does that make sense?

I could give two turds as to what happened with those guys. I'm just pointing out that making up motivations and reasonings is a loosing proposition.

 

polar its not hate when its based on the fACTS, at least I try to put a case for my belief that Floyd lied about billy and stole elis litter , , what case do you put forward for your anti Mayfield psots ,because so far you have not given one possible point to say why.

 

boots I told you why in my previous post, had floyd gone to don and asked to breed to his dogs when Floyd already claimed via billy that he already had what don had or what don breeding towards more and more in those years, dons very obvious question would have been why ? when he already has the saupposedly the most inbred son of dibo or one of the most inbred sons of dibo in billy and dogs bred off him to choose from on his yard.


I f you don't want to accept or see the dubious nature of billys ped and the very likely fact that eli was out of crybaby , then that's fine , but if you say you dont give turd about them guys or the dogs in question , then why are you trying to find fault only with anything ive said when there is very good facts including the dobs and dibo timeline which is not mine nor mayfields of which you have said nothing ,so that to me seems like you are definetly on Floyds side .

 

Well in honesty if it was someone that I wouldn't let breed to the dogs on my yard, I sure wouldn't send them a bitch pregnant with pups and expect him to whelp them for me.


March isn't the only month for Madness!!

 

Firstly, your case is not based on facts. It's based on unproven accusation and assumption. Secondly, my posts are not anti mayfield, I just don't buy the hype, one mans opinion without proof does not make it true. Thirdly, I have seen Mayfield dogs and I have seen Boudreaux dogs and I can tell you the quality is so far apart that they may as well be seperate breeds. You may think that repeating the same drivel over and over will make it true, well it doesn't, not to a rational mind anyway.

 

polar the dobs and dibo story are not assumpitons , they are the known facts , unless you want to change them yourself or maybe are you calling Floyd a lair also as it his word on the dob of billy.


As for the dogs , what Mayfield dogs did you see polar and how where they bred , post a ped, ,im guessing the ones you might have seen were not from dons yard between the 70s and 80s ,but like always rather than fight your corner with facts about the subject at hand you try to throw out diversion tactics, but that wont cut it, so let me ask you polar as you sound like your fastlane and must know a good family bred dog when you see it, do you think billy is bred as papered? and do you with all your years of fastlane think eli is out of scrub x candy lol or crybabys x cotton ? dont worry we wont think any less of your understanding because of your answers so be honest .

 

Cajun who said Floyd didn't have access to dons yard,? I see your looking to find any excuse to try and make it look like floyds not lying, all I said was WHO SAID FLOYD HAD ACCESS TO DONS YARD , maybe he did maybe he didnt, my feeling is he did, but how could he ask don for his blood when he had been telling the world via billy that he had the most inbred dibo dogs already , it would have seemed obvious even to a novice that something wasn't right had he asked, and don was no novice, so rather than hang on every word or a slip of the tongue to try and wriggle out of the obvious reality ,just face it Cajun the other Cajun lied .

 

By saying who said he had access you implied he didn't and to send a pregnant bitch to someone that you wouldn't want to let breed to something on your yard would be ridiculous


March isn't the only month for Madness!!

 

Cajun by me saying WHO SAID FLOYD DID HAVE ACCESS TO DONS YARD , WAS JUST A QUESTION to answer boots assumption , i ASSUME HE DID AS THEY WERE FRIENDS , but the fact is Floyd via billy who he claimed was bred as his ped shows, was or would have been one of the most inbred sons of dibo out there, and we don't know if Floyd ever asked don ifhe could breed to or buy a dog from him, maybe he did maybe he didn't,and as far as I know don never asked to breed to any of floyds dogs pre eli , and as I have said before, if don believed that billy was bred as Floyd stated then knowing how dons family was bred , im sure he would have bred to billy in a heartbeat or one of his sons had he believed billy was a an inbred son of dibo, but he didn't, and don't forget don was the one who was making regular trips to earls and im sure he would have asked earl about it , and don't you think if earl had said to don that billy was indeed dibos son, that don would have asked to breed to him , probably to crybaby lol? I mean we can go back and forth till hell freezes over, and yes anything is possible ,but like I said if we could all breed to jeff /spike or billy today knowning what we know and the overall picture of the time and crybaby etc , would you still breed to billy over the other two dogs if you wanted to be sure you were getting the dibos genes ?

 

Allow me to make something up in response: maybe Don didn't want whatever genetic problem that made Billy blind I his gene pool. That's why he never bred to Billy.

There, problem solved.

 

You know, thinking about it again, all you're really saying anyway it's that DON may not have believed that Billy was out of Dibo, which obviously does not make it so.

 

boots lets try this shall we, don didn't believe it that's why he never bred to billy not because he was blind or had poor sight , and the dobs are not making anything up or the known story of dibo and when earl got him etc , so on billy alone there is more than enough doubt about who his true sire is, and imo its not dibo.


On eli, of course anything is possible, but i haven't just decided to make something up for the sake of trying to make a square peg fit into a round hole, no what i have tried to do , is ask the question based on what we knew about the way eli came to be, and the coincidences surrounding don leaving crybaby ,and what came to pass after she was on floyds yard, compared to the dogs he had been producing before crybabys arrival on his yard , and they certainly were not like eli .


So with eli we have to use our own understanding and what seems logical based on the overall picture of the events at the time, to allow us to make up our own minds as to were the truth really lies in all this, and for my money if eli is out of scrub x candy i would be very surprised just based on the coincidence of crybaby and that Floyd had never produced dogs like eli before this time from those billy dogs, then if we take the next step of realizing that billy himself was not bred as papered, then what does that tell us about floyd and those dogs that don't have true peds on them down from billy ? it makes the eli crybaby probabilty even stronger than it is without knowning or believing that bily is not bred true to his ped , and it is like the house built on sand , eventually it had to collapse , but you believe what you will boots , your entitled to do so, but I am also entitlted to do so and to use my brain to work out what seems more likely given the circumstances , and facts we do have to make that conclusion for my own benefit .

 

Or let's try this: Don didn't breed to Billy because of his blindness, even though he knew Billy was off Dibo.

Neither my story nor yours proves anything, which was my whole point.

Have fun.

 

Hold on, let me elaborate...

You are putting made up thoughts and ideas (that Don would have bred to Billy if he was off Dibo. You have know way of knowing if he would our wouldn't have), and using those made up ideas as "evidence".

All I'm saying is that you're using a weak premise. I don't care which side you're on, you can't bass an argument off made up ideas.

 

boots to say that me saying that don didn't breed to billy because he knew he wasn't of dibo is a weak premiss is you not knowing who don was, and if anyone would have bred to billy had his ped been true it would have been don, he went out of his way to breed more and more towards the dibo blood and that s what his family was later on, the purest of the dibo family in all its various family crosses, so for you to say that shows you don't understand who don Mayfield was in the least .


Now as for made up ideas, well what about billys made up ped., don't you think theres a pretty good case to answer in that department even if you don't want to see that eli is from crybaby ,but how do you see billy as being true bred going by the facts we know about, maybe you can make up a nice story like you accuse me of , that will certainly not contain any facts ,but plenty of double talk im sure.

 

Now be very careful what you write and who you write about. Steve was a very much loved man, he was a born again Christian. He was a Texan and would brag but he wasn't a liar.


"fraternity"? What do you know about the fraternity? What famous dog were you involved with? What is the biggest show you were involved in?
BTW did you ever see Eli? I did twice. Oh BTW Blind Billy was UKC registered, again another person who wants the conspiracy rumor mill to keep going. None of your facts or information on dates are correct. Now I would like to help you out and show you but then again if you can't do it on your own, then why should do it for you?
Some are to lazy to find the truth.
I mean really, who is cik for your opinion to matter? I live in the here and now. If you think Blind Billy and Eli are fake then take on some of the stock and find out.


I often see when people can't discredit the quality of the stock, they attack the breeding claiming it isn't bred as said. As for giving someone else credit without proof or them claiming it, cowardly IMO.


Oh BTW Howard told me Eli was 1/4 Lab because pit dogs don't come black! Mayfield told me Eli had to be from his stock because his was only true Tudor stock and Earl had the only known Henry dogs and they were the only black pit dogs.
Earl told me to his knowledge anything he sold was bred as said.
All the above is bull shit. For the right price I can quickly show you in the early Dog Fancier, around 1905 many others had black stock of the APBT.


If someone's goal is to take away some of the glamour from a dogman, a dogman would do so by going into his stock and beating it.
Not sitting around writing about it from sources that can't ever be proved differently.


Now I have both stock from Eli and his half brother Boze, they don't care how they're bred. I never saw a pit dog that knew how to read or did it matter how they were bred or how the other dog was bred......"Proof is in the Performance."

 

Well Said Iron Mike ! Good to see ya back ! Keep em coming ! Dexx

 

mayfiels stories are correct mike ....
a born christian man ......get real .......