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Spoiled dog ?

Discussion in 'Training & Behavior' started by edgar86, Feb 13, 2016.

  1. edgar86

    edgar86 Big Dog

    IS there such thing , my dog is kind of house dog and get alot of treat etc ...
    HE basicly just want to run after small game , looking for mouse and play the boomer ball , he have no interest in slatmill , weightpull, springpole .

    Is there any way to get his energy at what i want , instead of what he want :) ?
     
  2. nicknl

    nicknl Pup

    Maybe something more walk with your dog and give more effort. That he dont want on the Mill would you need more and more to take your dog under listening. Now your act little lazy


    West coast gotti greyline
     
  3. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    ...use his toys and things he likes to persuade him into doing what you want him to...
    ... find alternative routes to exersize and if all else fails try the old peanut butter trick that works for everything...
    ...put some on the flirt pole and gettem working it well,,, use the peanut butter flirt pole as a lure to see if he will runthe mill or weight pull,,, if that dont work put some peanut butter on a mouses back in a small cage,,,
    most mice can actually do back flips trying to get the peanut butter,,, this combination of peanut butter and a mouse doing back flips should get your dog running the mill...
    Just joking a bit,,, in other words you will have to get creative sometimes and if the creativity doesnt work for the dog doesnt mean it wont work for the neighbor hood children,,, charge them to see the back flipping mouse and buy a new dog with the proceeds...
    some dogs take alot of patience and understanding while others might take a miracle to bring them around,,,
    good luck...
     
  4. stinkrock

    stinkrock Top Dog

    What kind of mill do you have?
     
  5. frogs

    frogs Big Dog

    If he displays energy/drive for ANYTHING, then that's not the problem, it's motivation. That's your responsibility to find things that motivate him and utilize them. Try a bike, padded harness and a 10 foot horse rope/lead for starters. Also keep in mind just like people not all dogs have that get up and go mentality.
     
  6. Cerberus

    Cerberus Pup

    If the has learned or trained himself how to keep himself entertained, it typically means there was something lacking in regards to mental stimulation/training. I would get him into a solid obedience program to get the basics of listening down for him, and for you to learn the basics of introducing new behaviors in a way he understands. It will usually take some time to break bad habits, but if he has the appropriate direction, and you are effective at introducing him to new things, then it should be easy to correct this behavior.

    Do you know of any working/sporting groups in your area? That is a great way to hear different ideas, and see what is effective for others. Even if it was one on one agility. That may seem undesirable as a sport, but you learn a great deal about bonding with your dog, and how to manipulate behavior in a motivational way.
     
  7. Cerberus

    Cerberus Pup

    Here are a few ideas that are at a very basic level. They are great exercises to build a foundation to work from. Some may seem silly (hard for some to get past), but as you learn to introduce these methods, you will see how the principles apply to other areas, such as getting them on a mill, flirt pole, etc.

    http://www.mnn.com/family/pets/stories/10-brain-games-to-play-with-your-dog

    http://moderndogmagazine.com/brainboostinggames

    Many of these can be done in the house, but try to make it where you advance to outside, in much larger, more challenging areas.

    There will be frustration trying to break him from his current routine(s), but keep patient and it will come.
     
  8. Leslie H

    Leslie H Big Dog

    [video]http://vid185.photobucket.com/albums/x102/lhaller/twinkieclark053114pairs-1280_zps96ba89a1.mp4[/video]

    My dog doesn't think agility is undesirable. Her partner, the first dog, is a rescue, and is afraid of the baton. My dog, not so much.
     
  9. edgar86

    edgar86 Big Dog

    thats some really nice work ,

    i cant do all the agility and obedience thing here because of pitbull ban law .

    I am working on spending more time with him on the leash for walk , for bonding .

    thank you for the advice ,
    In the litter he was already alone , playing with his own things , he still like to do thing alone , its not an easy job getting him to listen to me .
     
  10. edgar86

    edgar86 Big Dog

    damn it , my dog doesnt like people that come into my property , even i bring him close to them , on the leash and muzzle he still jump at them , trying to bite .
    IF people look into him , he jump .
    He live in the country , no city , no wolk in the street or such .
    Hes very nice at the vet , not caring for anyone .
    But at home hes a monster with any visitors .
    I have a kennel , but its not easy to predict when someone gonna enter and he meet them .

    I need some advice , any , thanks !
     
  11. Mr.Revolution

    Mr.Revolution CH Dog

    No offense but i think the the dog maybe too much dog for you . You might w ant to look into getting rid of that one and getting a more biddable dog. this way you can learn dog behavior and how to be the dominante in a constructive manner with a dog more receptive to your input and maybe not HA or territory aggresive until you learn how to house and secure such an animal.
     
  12. Mr.Revolution

    Mr.Revolution CH Dog

    Also whatever happens good luck to you i hope your able to work it out with the dog you have if thats what you decide
     
  13. GK1

    GK1 Big Dog

    It’s not the dog.

    Dog needs a consistent leader.

    Looking through this thread…good basic advice has been stated. A trainer may be the next step.

    With persistent effort over time, dog will turn out to be what you need, but maybe not what you think you want.
     
  14. edgar86

    edgar86 Big Dog

    getting rid of it its such a failure for me , iam taking the challenge and the reponsabilty of doing whatever for him to get better at stranger .
    he have a proper kennel outside and crate inside house to prevent any incident , iam letting it free when iam 200% sure no one is around in my property .
     
  15. edgar86

    edgar86 Big Dog

    I went to the trainer today , he told me basicly he lack socialization , wich is true , he didnt see much while he grew up to now (20 month)
    When the trainer took the leash and pulled to dog to him while calling him , finally they got close and looked at each other and you know :)
     
  16. Mr.Revolution

    Mr.Revolution CH Dog

    My prprevious post about getting rid of the dog was just food for thought. You sound like you willing and able to rise to the challenge and i wish you good luck. The fact you acknowledged it gon be work and your are taking the necessary steps to keep him secure and be responsible in getting help where your understanding lacks i have to commend you

    Again disregard my previous post and i hope he works out for you
     
  17. frogs

    frogs Big Dog

    You are now in a re-conditioning state and it will be much harder than if you had initially conditioned him. You definitely have your work cut out for you.

    As far as your visitors, I would suggest you leave a box of treats at the door for when people show up to greet him with. That is likely your most frequent and biggest liability right there.

    Good luck.
     
  18. edgar86

    edgar86 Big Dog

    thanks , i will update if any improvement with my monster :)
     
  19. smalldog

    smalldog Big Dog

    This little shit jumps in bed when ever he gets the chance. 20160428_082225.jpg
     
  20. mine was like yours. What I did is I walked him almost everyday and now he doesn't want to go inside anymore. :D
     

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