Oddbod's Ch. Bludd

I'm also wrong guy to ask about breeding mate, never bred enough litters to claim any knowledge on subject.. I never heard about brother x sister breeding producing curs until you mentioned it.. Had this one from a brother x sister mating..
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [64069] :: STILL GAME'S DORIS (online-pedigrees.com) A well bred female came from good people, probably one of worst working females I ever saw, but schooled into two CH's and never stop, bred her to some tight Reid/Scar blood and produced a litter of proper game dogs.

I think source of Odbod's was mostly Limey Kennels blood with touch of Scotsman's Max through Cherry Bomb, I never liked Limey stuff too much, I know they was good dogs, but IMO they wasn't same standard as northern Reid crosses, but when it came to Odbod you just knew there was no guess work, he was hard on his dogs, his standard was very high and it showed where it mattered, so IMO Odbod could have done brother x sister breedings every time and you wouldn't get curs by simple virtue of his high standards and foundation his kennel was built on.

Last time I was at Odbod's yard I saw this female and couldn't stop thinking about her for days she impressed me so much, other dogs looked great, but (for me) this one female jumped out from the rest.. Eventually my friend bought her and probably one of best females ever to come over the border.
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [349044] :: *ELSA (online-pedigrees.com)

 

Thanks for the replys ... gamefowl men always say that one ace dog in a litter is no good to them as they are used in mains hence they want better averages in a litter

 

You have to know the blood and dogs you are working and the main thing is have a eye for the dogs.
Breeding is a art which can be perfected over time to get consistency and desirable traits but it is a long hard path it is not everyone's cup of tea.

 

I always looked from different window, because i dont like watching to same view everytime, i enjoye seeing different things better things i am looking always for the best view . We know there is curs blood in every blood in every familly. Otherwise they wouldnt not give curs in some breedings. We know when you make a inbreeding, sometimes Lets say many times you lose some off the traits. Sometimes you doubled down on the best traits, you get the best traits stronger back in your production but sometimes if you not select good you are not that good in selection u can double down on one off bad imperfections. Thats is same with other techniek. Its al about the selection. You double down on good traits or bad traits. If u even make cross its also about selection yes? You breed only your best dogs yes? Saluut my brother. Respect to the ones who got this eyes and are willing to do hard selection

 

Since the subject of bro/sis breeding has come up in this thread and ch ship on another.. Looks like 2 ch's came from this breeding.
http://pedigree-database.cz/details.php?id=249657

 

I had a SBT in early 1980s , he was above average for SBT ,,brother / sister bred ,, and made Champion
http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=363965

 

Don’t know if people are understanding me right lol ... im not saying you can’t get a good game dog by brother x sister mating what i mean was ...is there a higher percentage of curs in that litter so therefore harder culling has to be done ?

 

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I'm no breeder but I tend to agree,skipper.

 

I've never heard of getting higher % of curs from that breeding only higher% of aul game plugs with no ability.. Same as with gamefowl... Not saying its not possible but wouldnt be a factor I'd be concerned about when doing that breeding myself

 

I dont claim to know anything about breeding either but given ,most if not all strains have curs behind them,the bigger issue might be the loss of hybrid vigour.I had an inbred dog myself and went to someone who i knew that knew a lot about racing pigeons,for his opinion,and apparently it is a very common thing to do with the birds,but i always presumed it might be a bit more difficult with the dogs because of kennel space etc,He culls a lot of birds and is always looking for the benefits further down the road.What i mean is if you have a loft of say 130 birds and about a dozen or more stock birds,you dont mind culling etc to find the aces in a generation or two,but a lot of dogmen who maybe could only keep 2 or 3 dogs at a time woudnt entertain the idea,and who could blame them.just a thought anyways.

 

I don't understand it , as I seen tight bred litters throw curs , scatter bred litters throw curs , there is no one ingredient , why would it throw more curs being brother and sister bred ? if thre back ground is full curs maybe , if full of game dogs maybe it throw lots of game dogs ?

 

Best x best the time will tell the rest.

 

You will get curs in all litters but I believe there comes a time in the family of dogs that the percentage of curs is minimal.

 

Odd bods own family of dogs was a phenomenal family in producing and replication of traits and high quality dogs.
Tough as nail, solid bulldogs and you could tell his dogs a mile off.

 

Oddbod got buzz aka little legs off me ...i bought him him off my mate and j wanted him .. i thought j would want him back as it was all his own breeding and the dog had been moved about abit .... little 29 lb dog off ed x wizard ....

 

Yes I know him but he was not part off the family J run, I mean not the right colour.

 

Yeah he was a little black dog with white chest ... he sired that ralph dog

 

He was a double bred grandson of bludd with that badger stuff on the bottom