Guy wants a $5k stud fee

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Dog is incredible, but pups are always a crapshoot. When he told me the price my response was "Chico"?

 

Why are you even wasting folks time with nonsense. That's the bigger problem than what a man decides what price he offers the public for there work.

 

You claim it to be a waste of time, yet you respond. We have pricing threads on here all the time. If you are not interested, simply don't respond. There is no guarantee that pups will replicate the parent, thus I think the price is high. $3k I could understand. The man is free to ask what he wishes and I am free to express my opinion.

 

They likely charge 2500+ a pup... 2 pups would be 5k.... average litter is 4-6.... "most ppl" will sell a couple.... yeah 5k is about right I guess.

People never do that math when stud fee prices pop up.

And what B.B. was referring to is you not having a dog to utilize a stud fee on but reaching out to find out pricing. Could also be why the pricing seems so high. Tire kickers usually get spun off with outrageous prices so they don't bother the owner of the stud/pups just for their own curiosity and amusement.

 

I think a pup should cost at least as much as a stud fee. Pups take a toll on your female and are finite. Plus they are a lot of work. Stud-ing a dog out doesn't take anything out of your male, hell he is happy to do it, so I don't think a stud fee should be double the price of a pup. I bred to Haunch for $600 (maybe 1200 in todays dollars). There are some real good dogs around my parts at stud for $1k.

I have not said anything to the guy about actually breeding. I don't really have any plans but that could change. My gal is acting great but I would need to test her before I bred her. Even then I am not sure I want to do all the work. She was only $700 but I would be happy to put her down with a typical $2.5k dog (I think Ben paid that for his dog) for a friendly weight pull if it was someone I could trust. I am not talking about some ace just your average $2.5k dog. Note: I am in no way condoning any illegal activity.

Actually, the guy is breeding her to a female that looks excellent, and the pups may very well be worth 2.5 k, absolutely. But like I said I don't think a stud fee is worth double the price of pups.

 

What's an average $2,500 dog?

 

The fact that your dumb ass is checking on a stud fee and your bitch ain't even a year old speak volumes. Then to respond to that man with disrespect shows your character. The entitlement mentality is something expected from a child not a 60yo man.

 

I don't think you understand how free markets, advertising, and capitalism work. I check out the prices on lots of things, cars, TV's, etc. I may not buy now, but I might in the future. I was scoping out my current car for 8 months before I bought it. I did 4 months of research before I bought my current pup. I could have bought a belly mate to your dog for 2.5k plus shipping (or a number of other choices) but I did much better. Don't be mad because I get better dogs for better prices than you. I plan and think about my purchases which is why I own quality stuff. I don't impulse buy. It is true I have no immediate plans of breeding, but when a 4 time winner pops up w/ in a days drive of me it gets my attention, it creates interest. If the guy was asking, say $3k I would probably take note and change my plans. Keep in mind I have purchased a pup off a 4 time winner for $600 in the past (maybe $1k in todays' dollars). If you are posting an ad for a dog the last thing you want is zero response so a person inquiring about price is perfectly reasonable and actually desirable. It has nothing to do with entitlement. Anyone selling any product is free to ask whatever price they want. Anyone asking about price is free to have an opinion about he asking price. Based upon the market and what I have access to I can get a much better deal. To suggest otherwise is socialistic stupidity..

 

That is pretty much the typical price for a pup coming from a proven parent usually a 3 time winner base upon my market analysis. I can get pups from 1-2 time winners shipped from Mexico for about $1500-1800. However, these are prices from nearly a year ago when I was doing my research. That 2.5 K is probably more like 3 plus K (Go Brandon Go) as inflation has affected everything. Also, that price does not include shipping.

However, since no one around here is putting titles on dogs anymore due to LE, you can get dogs from parents that are really good but untitled if you know where to look. That is where the best deals are. For example, LE has been after my breeders partner for 10 years (there are a bunch of articles in the paper documenting this fact) so for example the grandparents of my dog are untitled but proven nonetheless. Actually one of the grandmothers is a documented 3 time winner, but not the other 3 grandparents.

Also, there are a bunch of Ch Ship dogs around here going for under $1200 since many people don't know about him or what he has done in the Balkans.

Now in regards to stud fees...I have not done a hard search because I don't really have plans to breed, so I don't know the average. The Leonides dog popped up on Face Book that is the only reason I asked. Like I said...it does not make sense that a stud fee is more than a pup, so that is why I consider $5k to be Chico pricing. Just my opinion. Don't like it, don't post up on FB.

 

Oh lord lol

 

Some excellent dogs w/ $1200 stud fees: modules.php modules.php

 

Bro you ain't got a clue to what $ spent on anything at the end of the leash.
However the truth is that dog cost me nothing but fule $ lmfao
Have absolutely no doubt it took you 8 months of begging the wife to get a vehicle. How long did it take of baking in the house to get the hvac unit fixed lol don't try and play it off like you are making moves when all you do is window shop online.
P.s haunch didn't produce shit lol

 

5000 stud 4 pups 1250 each. 10 pups 500 each the cost for the breeder ex.vaccines deworming. Positive thinking LOL

 

Yeah....but look at the dogs at stud around the corner from me (I posted them above). They are bred out the ass for under $1200. Mating a male dog simply is not nearly the work or raising a liter, that is my point. Anyways.....breeding a litter is too much damn work. There are much, much easier ways to make money.

BTW, what is the weight on the dog you have, Ben?

 

All these so called " stud" for cheap have been puppies getting their balls bred off. From that ship son to these dogs posted. What you ain't figured out is the man behind the dog is the biggest factor. A dogman worth they salt ain't getting charged the same as you get charged.
Don't worry about the lb of anything at the end of my leash. If it's still being fed odds are it's too much bulldog for you lol

 

Money makes the world turn around but if someone start in the dogs to make money as the main goal he is on the wrong path to begin with. It is much work yeah but a great job if you like to raise school pups.If someone like to spend top dollar oke if not oke as well all up to that invidual.

 

FWK people on the outside can't comprehend what sacrifice it really takes. All the time that you put in flying across the globe with the dogs. They will still complain about what you would charge them for dogs lol
They don't realize that we lose money on this crazy lifestyle. All so they can have a pet lol

 

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