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Beanie

Discussion in 'SBT History' started by beanieman, Apr 20, 2010.

  1. beanieman

    beanieman Banned

    The FFBs originally started their kennels with Staffordshire Bull Terriers, which in fact they still own. Their first bitch called Betty, was out of K .C. lines and was bred back to the notable Game Flash. After they had schooled her for some time, she was eventually put open for show. Her first contest was into a bitch called Panthera and despite the extremely hot conditions Panthera was stopped on her second scratch at 16 minutes with Betty making a good courtesy scratch. After this, she had her first contracted match, into a bitch from the Ghostbusters which ended in a draw in a little over the hour mark. Nevertheless, she proved to be a real gamish little bitch.
    The kennels then began to experiment with the Old Time ( Irish ) Staffordshires with mixed results, some good and some bad. Eventually though, they began to gather some fair stock together, which enabled them to produce their own Stafford line.
    Some years later they had the opportunity to import an Old Time Staffordshire bitch called Beanie from Bullpower Kennels, a friend of the FFBs and a dogman that they respected. Having seen the bitch perform in a test, he suggested that they buy her for their own Kennels as she was just what they were looking for. The FFBs took his advice and brought the dog back home, considering her to be the best Old Time Stafford that they had seen.
    She was tested into a very good pitbull, going some pounds uphill. In the opinion of her new owners she proved to be a really deepgame bitch and in all probability a deadgame one, with good ability an mouth.
    Beanie was originally bred by Jack C in Ireland and was given to Charlie L in North of the country. Initially called Suzie she was Sired by Scratch Kennels Hagler II out of a daughter of Ch Psycho dog. She had been tested hard on many occasions and was ultimately sold to the guy from Bullpower Kennels, who bred her twice. The first mating with Milo, produced Woods Ben and Bullpower Kennels Beanie II. The second mating was with East streets Jocko, which produced Bullpower Kennels Merlin, East streets Junior and Woods Rock.
    Beanie was to produce a further two litters on the FFBs yard. The first Sired by Lee Strain Psycho crossed dog named Barney and the second with a son of the Milo dog, Pilot. Pups produced by these mastings have suggested good things for the FFBs yard. A third and final mating is planned with an Old Time Stafford dog called Paddy. He has good ability, average wind, has been tested hard and is out of Archie, over NFs Ruby, Paddy is game proven and lost his only outing to Yarrakins Stitchy Mahoner, but in really game fashion.
     
  2. beanieman

    beanieman Banned

    Forgot to say this is a old article
     
  3. OnTheRocks

    OnTheRocks Moderator

    There are atleast two significant matings of Beanie missing in that list. Rickey to Beanie, that produced Jack and Rickey jr. Then Jack back to Beanie, that produced Tanya etc. Jack was the most important stud out of Beanie, a great dog. Jack was bred several times producing some good dogs. Jacks last mating was to his half sister Fly, who is a double bred daughter to Rickey. There are still a few dogs out of Jack about...
     
  4. darlo

    darlo Banned

    hey fella can u pm me cheers
    all the best
    darlo
     
  5. beanieman

    beanieman Banned

    correct this was an older article i got more about ffb together with the rest and more.
    The rest with beanie is in the other article psycho/northford strain
     
  6. OnTheRocks

    OnTheRocks Moderator

    If it is me, PM´s dont seem to work for me at this board... Give me another way to communicate...
     
  7. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    were any of these "old time staffs" exported to the us? from the kennels named in OP?
     
  8. darlo

    darlo Banned

  9. OnTheRocks

    OnTheRocks Moderator

    Yes, several individuals where exported. But none where bred further as far as I know. There has been a limited amount of proper Staffords imported to the US! But very few, if any, where imported with a serious devotion to breed further. Not in recent years anyway.
     
  10. OnTheRocks

    OnTheRocks Moderator

    You got mail... Admins are also helping me sorting my PM problems, which is greatly appreciated...
     
  11. jmc

    jmc Pup

    Their was a good son from Jack x Dutch originally called boots that PP sent to a well known dogman in Canada who renamed him Paddy this dogman used him as a roll dog and he always showed good ability and was said to have stopped some of their prospects, but as mentioned above their has never been the right breeding with staffords outside of europe.
     
  12. I always wondered how some of these breedings with beanie took place while dogs were either dead , or to old to even have pups


    fly quit in 12 minutes into tanimfords shaia
    someone advertised she was bred to Judas that breeding never happened
    than they said she was bred to hamas
    LOL hamas was 3 months old at the time
    well I guess some believe and some know
     
  13. oldboy

    oldboy Pup

    Jack was indeed a very game dog and the best producer coming down from old Beanie.


    Jack's last mating was not his hafsister FFB Fly but a inbred daughter of Rickey also called R'sFly..I know it is getting confusing but Jack was mated to his halfsister Fly(Pilot x Beanie) few years before that and at the end of his life mated to R's Fly (daughter of Rickey) also a halfsister of him but on the sire side...
     
  14. oldboy

    oldboy Pup

    Fly did not perform well into that bitch she was started for the first time and I know you know dogs when they are youngsters some act weird..Fly was a late starter and when she did she was good and game 2 dogged in a test...this is no fairy tale..
    later on when exported to the UK she was checked again and proved...so..
     
  15. U might be right it was a first roll.

    do u know who fly was bred to which litters were of her and bred to which stud
     
  16. This ped you mean??
    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=333481
     
  17. jmc

    jmc Pup

    When Fly (Pilot x Beanie) was bred to Jack a bitch was sent back to the FFB's called Fly II she was hard tested very rough little bitch looked promissing but unfortunatly she escaped from her kennels killed a pit x english bull then ran across the road and was killed by a truck!....
     
  18. beanieman

    beanieman Banned

    No not me !.
    I never advertised about that,
    this is my old bitch and her ped is just up since a few months.
    And more funny is that i changed it from gashouse urica (what was on the legal papers) to Fly this afternoon after Oldboy his post and boom there are you, who finds the need to post my old bitch her ped in your first post.
    Sir you flatter me but get a life and do not get involved with an other man his lies.
    BJ aka BMC aka Bulldoghistorian = the 1 that said to many people that the judas/fly breeding was the best he did but now years later he is telling something else real funny hahaha :D.
    Some just would like to know to the best way how there dogs are bred and no it doesn't matter wich name is behind it as long as they know.
     
  19. Think u got me mixed up but your fun , not bothered at all
    Its common knowledge that when that statement was made , it was meant as a ridicule towards some people.
    By emphasizing the fact that the litter was super he actually meant he was on to the swapping of papers.

    especially since around that time it was common knowledge that fly had quit
    just look at the pictures of the dogs from that litter and the dogs that judas normally produces
    most of em were over 44 pounds and stood around at least 18 inch at the shoulders

    if your attitude was different some might have been inclined to give u the right info, but since your attitude is one of confrontation and insult I guess we will just have a good laugh
     
  20. This was a reaction about the breeding fly x judas, could be also another pup from this litter. Accidentely it has been your old bitch witch i did not know. Just looking around and found this. I am sorry about it and don't understand the problem. Also the pm you send me, I did not understand. But if there is a problem, I apologize for it.
     

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