Beanie

thats a good question to ask and i would like to ask you that one back on the line ofthose red dogs down from the dogs youwere close uo with and to qoute you direcly dont start haveing a hissy fit when we talk of genuine pedigrees but i persanly saw dogs close up on the ones with your name behind them with at least 1 1\2 incch wavey fur down there backs any idea were that comes from

 

Lets talk dogs and let me educate you about Gamedogs as from your post its obvious your understanding is limited , first i bet you own dogs bred like the ones i mentioned in my last post were i simply asked a question does anyone have a dog with a genuine pedigree ? Thats a simple question that now i put to you , do your dogs have genuine pedigrees ? Or are trhey bred from those crossbred curbred dogs with false papers and false KC registrations ? Now that not a difficult question to anyone with half a brain that can read and is honest ? Now to your question , you have NEVER seen a single dog that i owned , if you have then name the dog ? You have never seen a single dog that i bred , if you have then name the dog ? Lastly you have never seen a single dog bred from my yard or any dog Stafford or Pitbull that i have sold , if you have then name the dog ? Now as to the long haired dogs you saw the wise thing to do was ask the fools that owned the dogs or are you saying that i bred these dogs ? If you tell me how they were supposed to be bred and tell me which of my dogs feature in the pedigrees then i will answer you honestly on this board for all to see . Howevor you have never met me but try to insinuate that these dogs are the result of breeding from dogs i owned , well lets prove some truth . All my dogs i owned and bred from were not only purebred of the breeds be they Staffords , Wheatens or Pitbulls and all were game tested and deep game , i kept records of each mating i made and no were every single puppy i bred went to and of all breeding from them till they died , so i can research any dog you mention that was owned or bred by myself , so little old you lets prove some truth and i assure you anything i tell you will be TRUTH and FACTS

 

LITTLE OLD ME im still waiting for you to answer my questions concerning my dogs ? Or are you like those other Jokers on here who make foolish post talking shite from behind a pen name then disapear? I love proving TRUTH in the dog game , its amazing how people become experts about things they have no knowledge about , repeat stories that are pure FICTION simply because some other neverwas told them . The reason the gamedog scene is in the state its in is because foolish breeders place there foolish understanding on the dogs they listen to people that listened to people that were never real dogmen but basically dealers and puppy peddlars . They are told stories about dogs none of them saw , the dogs they are sold have false pedigrees , the records of certain dogs are changed as are the pedigrees and the deceit goes on and on until it becomes TRUTH . I wouldd love to know how dogs that are NOT purebred Staffords are now carrying KC recognition and being peddled for such high prices , we here so much criticism of the Yahoos at the KC but a falsely papered Blue or Red puppy fetches a higher price than any genuine bred fat little KC bred dog and peple on this board have the cheek to call the KC people . Once again does ANYONE own a dog with a true genuine authentic pedigree ?

 

simple answer is to take all peds with a pinch of salt.........A ped should prove a certain level of quality. FBK stock will scratch but our mutts made them hit the wall. Most teams wont put into the kitty until they know the dog can win it back. Ask yourself if that grand in the biscuit tin is worth riding on that so-called belly dragging hard-mouthed super game box dog?

 

i told you not to have a hissy fit calm down i have owned a dog 100percent dred down from your dogs and that is a fact no lies i dont know how i got to own it because you dont sell dogs or puppy and never had a dog at stud and know were evry dog you bred ever ended up i wont name it because i can not be bothered to talk to some one so narrow minded i have spoke to you before on the phone and you were a nothing more than a gentalman giving good advice and you were very sincere so why become a ass hole with you audiance your not the first to own dogs and you wont be the last you seem to think you invented it you dident now i have to go i have a pan of beetroot on iam going to go and watch it boil its a little more interesting than readind you running over the same old ground we all know evrey thing you have done is better than what evrey thing evrey one else has done thats life your the best champ so when you have given me another hissy reply get your self settled on the sofa and pick up you local news paper and see if you can get your self another dog like you have done in the pass who knows it might make you another ch or grch

 

very true LMAO!!

 

Once again you never had a dog from myself and certainly one that was bred as you say 100% my breeding and if this is so then post the pedigree or PM it to me as your talking BS , i speak to people as i find them and your talking like a asshole saying my dogs produced dogs with long hair once more name the dogs ? and when did you ever talk with me on a phone ? as for owning a dog that was 100% my breeding you certainly never had the dog from me . How is it you people come and make foolish claims then when asked to prove it you dont wanna talk no more , like i say tell me the dog you owned that was 100% my breeding if you dont wanna go public you shouldnt have done so in the first place PM me with the pedigree

 

the one i had was 100 percent your breeding and you are saying not to cover your tracks about not selling dogs while i did not get the dog fro you direcly it was for sure 100 percnt your breeding yes i did speake to you on the phone and i will say again your were a gentleman you should not give out your number willy nilly if you can not remember who you have said this to and who you have said that to thats why people pick up on what you say i wont be in contact with you on pm no more than i would give a tramp in the street my bank deatails it not worth the hassel also did you find any thing in the paper you never hissed about that one

 

Once again you never had a dog from me that was 100% my breeding in fact you cant name one person that has been and bouht a dog from me or bred to any of my Stafford studs the only two bitches were Lightfoot owned by DB of Birminham and a bitch owned by JL of Liverpool that never took . You never had any dog from me that you might have owned a dog bred DOWN with dogs in its pedigree has nothing to do with me , lots of people claimed they had dogs from my dogs even years after they were dead . Your just like hose others on here that talk about things they have NO knowledge of were NOT involved in but feel if you say something derogatory it makes you feel like a dogman or woman when in fact it shows ignorance . Im all for people having there say but when they LIE on a board then refuse to show the proof it shows everyone just how childish you are . As for me giving you good advice and someone giving you my private number and me behaving like a gentleman then why now would you come on a public board claiming MY dogs produced dogs with long hair , i say your a LIAR and a fool and NEVER did your dog come from me , the simple solution is to post the pedigree for all to see , if not keep your foolish opinions to yourself and stick to boiling beetroot , its easy to run your mouth of on a board thats a cowards or curs way .

 

so just for the record can i get the true ped on the droopy dog and the suzie bitch.
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it wont change the pups i got out of my breeding but i will get my insight on possible future breedings with these dogs.

thanks in advance C

 

it was you who gave me your private number you no one else that is the truth but the truth slips your mind quite easily good night and good bye

 

Not one single dog bred from the BLUE staffords in England has a genuine authentic pedigree without curs Pitbull , Bull Mastiff , Bull terrier or Wheaten blood thats a FACT there may be some in IRELAND butthose bred here in England by the dealers/peddlars back in the eighties had every kind of cross introduced and false papers hung on them . Hence anything descended from these dogs isnt worth the paper its written on , check out the post on the BEANIE thread all they do is argue about fake pedigrees now thats you people that own them , not me telling you this . I simply said i saw lots of litters on certain yards in the early eighties that had false pedigrees hung on them , this was seen by myself and a number of wellknown dogmen , so for the last time someone show me a TRUE GENUINE pedigree without any CURS . Thays my last word on this subject im sick of talking about CURBRED FALSE PEDIGREED dogs with FALSE KC registrations . As for you little old you you wouldnt know truth if one of those long haired staffords came and bit your arse with it , look at the dogs your all feeding theyve got false pedigrees are bred out of curs and theres nothing you can do to change it HA HAA HA HA

 

There are at least two significant breedings to Beanie left out Ricky to Beanie which produced Jack and Ricky Jnr , Jack was a good dog and his last mating was to Fly who was out of Ricky to his daughter according to Moderator , what he forgot to say was Ricky was a rank cur that quit cold so you have a good dog sired by a rank cur being bred to a bitch thats double bred on the same cur Ricky , this means the pups are 5/8ths Ricky and 5/8th cur bred i dont know the breeding of Beanie but am told she was a good bitch , so why breed her to a cur like Ricky and why inbreed on the Ricky dog ? but then again wasnt she bred to Milo or a double bred son of Milo ? Seems like you guys really know how to breed for them deepgame genes and you try to tell me that im wrong , this is all your own breedings when you check out all the post about false pedigrees posted by you people that keep these dogs then say IM wrong in what im saying read YOUR post and the history of these dogs by the so called experts that bred and keep them its a joke , now i might be wrong but i MYSELF wouldnt breed to a dog like Ricky and nor would i breed to his son no matter how game he was and a inbred son would certainly be a no no , but im not telling you how to breed GAMEDOGS as you obviously know just bry reading YOUR postings i can tell just were your coming from and were your all going and i wish you all the best of luck

 

You cannot tell anything about where I am coming from, or where I am going, based on my posts. My posts are pretty limited due to obvious reasons.

If anyone else has any interest to correct you on the production record of Rickey and Beanie and their offspring it is up to them, it’s easy enough. But I have no further interest in arguing with you. Have a nice day.

 

At least your man enough to admit you had a dog with a false ped, the great springview BLUE wolf

 

Your so dumb MA that you dont stop to think before you run your big mouth off , the Wolf dog had a genuine pedigree as posted by myself on this board for ALL to see, when i first got the dog he had a incorrect pedigree , which his breeder and Pinky from being a puppy till he came to PM then to myself . Why dont you tell us all about the matches you NEVER had and why the boys at Eastend Kennels call you the FORFEIT man or how you refused to match those great bitches you had out of the great Dutch import how you refused to match anyone, in fact you only matched one bitch and messed that up and lost to Peanuts then the boys you forfeited to beat Peanuts and gave you the name Forfeit man , i almost forgot the bitch yopu matched wasnt yours , even the Dutchman thinks your a fool and stated so in the TIMES . Cider Apple your a never was you never did anything and have done nothing since your one and only match which you LOST all those years ago , oh i remember the only dog you matched of your own it QUIT standing on all four feet the CHARLIE dog , he lost to PEACE who lost to SLEDGE who lost to MY CH Oneye dog , incidently GRCH Bruno stopped Charlie in ten minutes prior to you owning the dog thats why they sold him

 

Apologies the last post should read Pinky requested a male pup when he let Dann have Paddy and they sent him the WOLF dog he sold the dog to PM and then i had him of PM until his death . The rest of the post is correct CHARLIE quit for Cider APPLE and was his dog , the other a bitch was owned by others but still lost two matches two losses

 

For those who didnt know Springviews WOLF was sired by PADDY out of his litter sister Judy they were littermates to Malachy Judges Woodside Lad , WOLF was sent as a pup to Pinky who owned the Wolf Island prefix as he wanted a male pup out of Paddy when Dann bought the dog . The boys in Portsmouth (again) put MAX as the sire to WOLF and later the breeder of OLF told me he was out of PADDY this was later confirmed by Tom Haughey , Pinky , Peter Gorman and several other wellknown Irish dogmen , hence the pedigree was corrected , so CIDER APPLES once again your wrong and WOLF was bred as i stated and now tell me ONE single dog besides him today that has a GENUINE pedigree ?????

 

ive read some of this thread re ricky being a cur!!!! n quitting cold..1 word bollocks..a big word "CUR" to hang on a dog... and ricky was 1 id have been proud to have on my yard....

 

Ok Ricky was a deepgame dog that never quit the one word is bollocks and Ricky didnt have any !!!!!