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Bert Sorrells vs. Tatonka Kennels

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by sneekypete, Feb 27, 2012.

  1. the.peon

    the.peon Top Dog

    I doubt he would give a shit less about some know nothing morons opinion of a family of dogs that he brought to life and made his lifes work. Regardless if you love them or hate them they have stood the test of time, and back when he was active they were some good dogs. Sometimes you just need to consider the source of the comment rather than the comment its self.
     
  2. In my opinion this is one of Uncle Buds better sons [Bud Lite]. Bud Lite.jpg
     
  3. hempjocsorrlby

    hempjocsorrlby Big Dog

    Thats a nice pic of Bud lite and ole Buckshot, I dont think ive seen that one before.
     
  4. gh32

    gh32 Premium Member Premium Member

    Nice old pic,he reminds me a little of a dog i used to have.Wasn't a sorrell dog but did resemble him.
     
  5. pitman87

    pitman87 Pup

    I had some dogs bred down off uncle bud and sailor with a nigerino in them that I loved.put the uncle bud and sailor over some jeep/redboy down off als fifty_seven and lockes turbo and got nothing but honest bulldogs
     
  6. young muscle

    young muscle Big Dog

    I've gotten a few sorrells dogs, sometimes Bert would answer sometimes jonie, I always got a bull dog, as far color, Munuka was b&t buckshot told me he lost him game going uphill 10 pounds. That said Mr. K blood frequently throws b&t (bup, earnie ect) Tudors black demon was a b&t, all what I mentioned were winners, if they had Rottweiler in them you might need to get you one and mix it so you start winning!
     
  7. whiteboyposse

    whiteboyposse Banned

    Shes got his best of best and done one hell of a job her an marcel
     
  8. lol

    I really wonder why bother arguing with an ignorant fool!!! Just lough with his nonsense and that's enough

    the dogs have proved themselves, they do not need our help through the internet :)
     
  9. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    The black and tan coloration comes from way back when the breed was created. Varius breeds where crossed into the bulldog to creat the bull and terrier known today as the pitbull terrier.. wipets/ greyhounds/ Dalmatier / old inglish wite terrier / manschester terrier/ and here it comes the BLACK AND TAN TERRIER where used UMONGST other breeds. Evy dogs that was crossed with a bulldog that could performed and who was worthy enoughf to breed from was used.
    Hensh we see Buldog types, wipet looking dogs(grch Mammy) Terrier typs ecetera ecetera. click Toy terrier in the link
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Toy_Terrier_(Black_&_Tan)


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_and_Tan_Terrier
    chek second link give that fell terrier an short smooth pitbull coat and what do we see!!..
    for those that argu know your history....
    The black and tan coloration has been presend in the pitbull terrier from day 1..
     
  10. hempjocsorrlby

    hempjocsorrlby Big Dog

    A oldtimer told me that those b&t dogs were dead game. I wanted to ask him how was that true when that would be basing gameness on color, but I didn't ask him, now I wish I had of asked him
     
  11. doginhold

    doginhold Top Dog

    There have been some old articles back in the Your Friend & Mine Magazines that have discussed if black and tan dogs could be considered game! Lots of bragging anyways but as one said gameness comes in various colours and degrees!
     
  12. doginhold

    doginhold Top Dog

    Limey, I agree!
    Many Terrier breeds come in black and tan! The one that is popping up first in my mind is the German Jagd Terrier!
    Manchester Terriers aswell as many Pinchers as they are considered to be closely related to the Terriers! Also tri coloured dogs, let alone the Foxterrier, the Parson and Jack Russel Terriers, Plummer Terriers and so on.
    If we take a look at molossoid dogs the Rottweilers are black and tan also some Tosas are etc.
     
  13. doginhold

    doginhold Top Dog

    Oh and I forgot!
    The English Bullterrier has boatloads of tri coloured dogs! The Miniature Bullterrier even share´s a bigger number of tri coloured dogs! I do think it´s because they never have been under that pure white dogma and have been long time used as hunting dogs aswell as they display way more of the Terrier than their rather more bulldog tending brother!
     
  14. bootsbjj

    bootsbjj Big Dog

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  17. I have and actually matched into him and lost for his second win in about 47mins with a dog called Blackie even though it's called Brindle on his Championship certification in the Sporting Dog Journal...
    But he was definitely a really good dog even though I wouldn't necessarily call him great..
     
  18. Whats with all this color stuff?
    Limeys old post was real intresting.but i dont no how he comes up with the conclusin of all them breeds he said being in the bull and terrier?
    lol.none of them breeds were even known when the bull and terrier first started becoming common.
    all these breeds were mixed together and boom!we have a fighting dog.
    im not having that.
    dogs were bred for the pit long before fancy writers started to write about them.

    I think the evolution of fighting dogs started long before Cockney Charlie was even born-that means none of them breeds like Mancheters and whippet were even reconised.they were all just dogs.
    whippets were small lurchers and imo still should be classed as such.Manchesters were just terriers.and bulldogs were just fightung dogs.
    no fancy breed names back in 1800.
    plenty if knick names,but no fancy breeds back then.

    I do belive the black and tan color comes from terrier blood tho.
    dont mean thats right.there could have been bulldogs with this color hundreds of years ago for all we no.
    the rotti is not related to the pit bull.
    the pit bull is not a molleser.
    the molessi people were known thousands of years after the first catch dogs(anseters to the pit bull)were known.
     
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  19. If any of thayts spelt wrong or it reads like a drunk has wrote it,i apologise....im writeing this on a i phone with a screen thats smashed to peices.

    All the best.
     
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  20. Dusty Road

    Dusty Road CH Dog

    was on Sorrells yard in mid 1990s , he had a handful of Black and Tans dog
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    slip
    Azuma , a 2xw , had large fangs , no throw back to terrier , nothing added , just a black and tan coloured APBT ,
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