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Bite or Gameness? Small head/Big head

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by Sleep, Apr 9, 2020.

  1. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    Body and soul must be in perfect balance for any athlete if he want to be succesfull in his profession. And a little luck plays a factor to as well, had it and against me when slapping the living daylights out of each other for honor and some coins. CTE or worser is always looking around the corner in many sports out there, thus be in balance all the way, in those dogs they call it G.A S .
     
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  2. che

    che Top Dog

    Yes God here is somebody who
    Is understanding all .
     
  3. stickler

    stickler Banned

    I understand that stamina doesn't work without conditioning, as long as it is about winning. But even gameness alone can't win without conditioning.
    But I see stamina a little bit different.
    Imo it's more about absorbing punishment, thick skinned if you like, and then with enough gameness and some good conditioning one may be able to catch the second wind. But conditioning alone or in combination with gameness will not bring you to that point of catching a second wind.
    You can't conditioning gameness into a dog, but you can make him 'longer game' with conditioning. Same with stamina, conditioning will help in that matter, but stamina, just like gameness is genetics and stands on his own. At least that's what I believe and always believed. Am I really wrong for all those years, lol.
    Btw the shortest way to explain gameness is, again imo, gameness is the inability to quit.
    Nothing more, nothing less.
    But it's not out of my own small brain, of course, It just happened that I once met a wise man :D
     
  4. stickler

    stickler Banned

    Please, don't use google :D
    Duckduckgo is much better for searching the truth. Give it a try ;):-?:D
     
  5. che

    che Top Dog

    I am not here to playing a teacher. So i Will not keep going telling 10000000 times. Those who are willing to understand it, those are the ones who are gonna understand it. I was Reading a
    Lot. Sometimes i needed to read a page more than onece to understeand what they were telling me. Sometimes i found out it was different at first time second time is was more obviusly. In years i have learned. I must read to understand . I must not read and see the Words only . Just because i wanted to read.
     
  6. che

    che Top Dog


    Yes yes Lets rock and roll.
     
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  7. stickler

    stickler Banned

    You need 'the will' to understand in first place, everything else will follow
     
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  8. che

    che Top Dog

    I just was giving up telling biljoen times you know. I am willing to tell biljoen times to the ones who are willing to listen to what you got to tell them , not to the ones who are just thinking what to say next .
     
  9. stickler

    stickler Banned

    You sound like one out of F.W.K. country.
    Am I rightje? :D
     
  10. reddirt redneck

    reddirt redneck Big Dog

    You are the one not understanding. Again, to boxing, I’m very very well versed in Biomechanics, google it. I guarantee you, I can put stamina in anything, why do you think they run horses? To Build stamina, I can’t nor can anyone else build gameness. You have one thing correct, you ain’t here to teach
     
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  11. che

    che Top Dog

    YesI am not here to teach you. Silence is best way when science is worthless.
     
  12. Sleep

    Sleep Big Dog

    Preach
     
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  13. stickler

    stickler Banned

    I guess you mix up wind and stamina.
    2 different things/qualities.
    You can put wind in horses, but without stamina (genetics) they hardly will get a 2. or 3. wind. Intervalle training helps for sure, but it's meaningless if you don't got stamina by nature.
     
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  14. stickler

    stickler Banned

    It would be just too easy, especially in horses, if you could put stamina into them just with conditioning. But that's not possible, because stamina is a genetic factor, just like gameness. Mouth or wind is also about genetic, of course, as all is, but you get better results with better conditioning. You can also get the worst out of it with bad conditioning, but gameness and natural born stamina will be still there, no matter how the work is done.
     
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  15. reddirt redneck

    reddirt redneck Big Dog

    So, by that way of thinking , marathon runners are born with the ability and don’t really have to work on getting to the point of running x miles. Seems legit
     
  16. Sleep

    Sleep Big Dog

    Gameness comes from genetics....Stamina is condition/work you put in to the dog training
     
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  17. Sleep

    Sleep Big Dog

    Some have nature wind but if u go to the box off of just nature wind isn't that just an OTC MATCH....WELL in the dog with nature wind it would be right....even tho it's on a dog conditioned Right or Wrong?
     
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  18. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    Some folks romanticize about these dogs to unbelievable levels lol
     
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  19. che

    che Top Dog

    Again stamina strength gameness are all genetic. Some have natural strength gameness and stamina. How many dogs we know from past. He was a strong had a bite

    Nobody said this:) you still dont read to understand what people say
     
  20. che

    che Top Dog

    How many dogs we know from past. Whic dog Had all natural wind strengt stamania gameness i am not saying this dog still need a condition training because in a top competition you always need to be trained. This is not street amateur fight. I am just saying Stamania gameness strength are all genetic but Some off them you can develop by conditioning them. Some off them are hard to conditoning. If we talk about mentally stamina also called mentally toughness thats hard to put in a dog but if we talk about pyhsicall effort yes we can add this to a dog. If the body is capabel. There are many factors . Like i said we cant make a dog game by conditioning we just try to make him longer game by conditioning longer strong so he can use this qualitys so long ass possible. Lets make that clear.
     

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