Black Bart vs. Pit General

Blue have you ever seen any of the mans dogs to form such an opinion ? seems like you are speaking from an uneducated point of view considering the fact you put a question mark after everything you say.
Hell i know mr doginhold has never seen them or he would of been able to come back at my posts but he has no first hand experience. I'm kind of hoping though that you are a better example and maybe have actually seen some of them to form such an opinion which you would 100% be entitled to if you had seen them of course.

I'm not trying to defend keystone here he can speak for himself but i think anyone attacking ANY line of dogs better have some first hand experience to back it up otherwise it is just petty slander and or jealous hating.I will say it again The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.

I believe there are many bloodlines out there people would dismiss that are more than capable of producing good animals but to call something sh*t because there isn't 1000s of them around like most other mass produced lines of dogs is outrageous.

 

No offense, Calico, but I can only wonder at your "sensitivity" should any of your fellow posters say anything even remotely critical about Mayfield or his dogs. You will recall jumping all over me for posting my opinion that Pit General was "hardly any better" than such dogs as M. Carver produced. Whew! -- you'd have thought I'd farted in church. And all I'd said, really, was that Pit General was a fine dog and certainly a notch above most. But no, that wasn't good enough for you. Up jumped you with the argument (the same argument you're offering now) that anyone who hasn't actually SEEN Pit General (or Mayfield's dogs in general) in action ought not offer any critical opinions because they don't know firsthand what they're talking about. No, says you -- we're supposed to take as Bible only such cherry-picked quotes as you deem acceptable.

"Why should I believe in Mayfield?" I ask. To which you answer with perfect authority: "Because my Bible tells me so." Your "Bible" of course being those cherry-picked quotes mentioned above.

"I'm kind of hoping though that you are a better example and maybe have actually seen some of them to form such an opinion which you would 100% be entitled to if you had seen them of course."

Let me run something by you, and I hope others will address this as well. "Seeing is believing," you say? But is it really? Can we dogmen even COUNT the number of times we've seen some mediocre dog be made to look like an ace simply because he's fighting a lesser dog completely out of his class? It's nothing less than a truism: a poor performing dog can make even a mediocre dog look great.

My point being that there are countless nuances worth a dogman's sorting through in the process of interpreting what he sees in any given contest between dogs. We all of us, of course, have eyes to see and mouths to speak. And yet, even despite these attributes we all share, we sometimes disagree. Why is that? Might it have something to do with the fact that some interpret and see things differently from others? Of course we do. But then, it seems to me, the first step toward wisdom is to take with a grain of salt virtually anything we read.

And here I would ask you pointedly: Did you YOURSELF see Pit General in action? Or does your opinion of him rest solely on what you've read?

 

...in answer to your Q CALICO/cik/?...yes i have seen one or two,,,cause thats all there was..nothing of any merit came down this way,,,thats not my fault,,and when i mentioned it, ur buddy hit the roof....rose tinted glass's i don't wear....i THINK FRITZ WORDED THINGS PERFECT.....some very good points..theres been some gr/ch's..that had an easyer road than some 2xw/etc...

 

is Rayo still in GA?

 

hey fritz couple of points i piked up on mayfeild was not known to exegerate his dogs performance nor was burton, mayfeild in particuler was competing against the best for many years the dogs he beat wernt mediocre as your example suggests, at all,, the duke dog was a real good head dog from frank fitwaters yard of the ch goldie breeding<as was general< it was a hard match with duke gettin legs broke and showing to be deadgame as fityzwater would not pick up duke , far from mediocre black bart was also regarded as a very good dog not mediocre just what mayfeild was known to go after ,winners , so both oponants were in top dogmens hands with top dogs its kinda disrespectful to take credit away i mean what your motivation do you fear there was lies told about general an you call for reason ,?,or it just your opinion other dogs coulda been as good ?seems odd youd put efort into casting doubt on public forums about such a legendary dog an dogman correct me if im wrong but im sure i read you said you was in the game 5 years dont that make you a novice to the likes of mayfeild? seems kinda arrogant to put your own opinion in contention with theres as to what a good dog is ,the variables you throw in do not apply unless you, as i said ,are casting doubt on what mayfeild an burton said or there judgement ?? seems little sour to me exuse me if i missed some genuine value in your doubt casting not tryin to be rude just dont undestand why youd have so much to say on it i mean if we held up mayfeilds matches an oponants to yours would we think you or mayfeild would be prone to exageration or misreading a dog ?,,fairs fair

intersted to hear what dogs you had in mind from carver as he bought sam kennedys whole yard of around 40 dogs kennedy had generals brother who was said to be even beter amogst other top bred dogs so you never know lol

 

wtf forget that first post got spliced lol

hey fritz couple of points i piked up mayfeild was not known to exegerate his dogs performance nor was burton, mayfeild in particuler was competeing agaist the best for many years the dogs he beat wernt mediocre as your example suggests at all the duke dog was a real good head dog from frank fitwaters yard of the ch goldie breeding<as was general< it was a long hard match with duke gettin legs broke and showing to be deadgame far from mediocre black bart was also regarded as a very good dog winning not medocre what mayfeild was known to go after ,winners , so both oponants were in top dogmens hands with top dogs its kinda direspectful to take credit away i mean what your motivation do you fear there was lies told about general an you call for reason ,?,or it just your opinion other dogs coulda been as good ?seems odd youd but efort into casting doubt on such a legenrady dog an dogman correct me if im wrong but im sure i read you said you was in the game 5 years dont that make you a novice to the likes of mayfeild? seems kinda arrogant to put your own opinion in contention with theres as to what a good dog is ,the variables you throw in do not apply unless you, as i said ,are casting doubt on what mayfeild an burton said or there judgement ?? seems little sour to me exuse me if i missed some genuine value in your doubt casting not tryin to be rude just dont undestand why youd have so much to say on it i mean if we held up mayfeilds matches an oponants to yours would we think you or mayfeild would be prone to exageration or misreading a dog ?,,fairs fair
intersted to hear what dogs you had in mind from carver as he bought sam kennedys whole yard of around 40 dogs kennedy had generals brother who was said to be even beter amogst other top bred dogs so you never know lol

 

ok my posts are being interfered with ingnore it all its a rehash aND NOT MY WORDS LOL

 

last try loil
hey fritz couple of points i piked up mayfeild was not known to exegerate his dogs performance nor was burton, mayfeild in particuler was competeing agaist the best for many years the dogs he beat wernt mediocre as your example suggests at all the duke dog was a real good head dog from frank fitwaters yard of the ch goldie breeding<as was general< it was a long hard match with duke gettin legs broke and showing to be deadgame far from mediocre black bart was also regarded as a very good dog winning not medocre what mayfeild was known to go after ,winners , so both oponants were in top dogmens hands with top dogs its kinda direspectful to take credit away i mean what your motivation do you think theres misinformation or it just your opinion other dogs coulda been as good ?seems odd youd but efort into casting doubt on such a legenrady dog an dogman correct me if im wrong but im sure i read you said you was in the game 5 years dont that make you a novice to the likes of mayfeild? seems kinda arrogant to put your own opinion in contention with theres as to what a good dog is ,the variables you throw in do not apply unless you, as i said ,are casting doubt on what mayfeild an burton said or there judgement ?? seems little sour to me exuse me if i missed some genuine value in your doubt casting not tryin to be rude just dont undestand why youd have so much to say on it i mean if we held up mayfeilds matches an oponants to yours would we think you or mayfeild would be prone to exageration or misreading a dog ?,,fairs fair
intersted to hear what dogs you had in mind from carver as he bought sam kennedys whole yard of around 40 dogs kennedy had generals brother who was said to be even beter amogst other top bred dogs so you never know lol

 

As we all know, both Mayfield and Burton were tops at their game and nowhere did I suggest they were beating mediocre dogs. What I wrote was that a less-than-mediocre dog could make a mediocre dog look like an ace.

I consider each of the two sentences above to be completely true and not at all contradictory of one another.

 

Fritz ur fucking 1st class!

 

..they could only beat what was put in front off them...that went for all...

 

as you can see my post has been edited an cut its all out of context so there is nothing i can discuss your talking to somone else not me , lol if they brave enuff to untie me ill indulge you lol

 

..it's like all the dm..:bow::bow::bow:...have a hotline....lol...how dare other people have an opinion......

 

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