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Breeding to a well bred cur?

Discussion in 'APBT History' started by NC, Sep 14, 2009.

  1. NC

    NC CH Dog

    I was recently reading some old articles and letters about Don Mayfield and his Nigger dog. Now without knocking the dog on his production record... he was a 6 minute cur and rumors he quit during a schooling roll as well.

    But yet Mayfield chose not only to breed him but to base his yard off of this 6 minute cur... which I guess was a hell of a thing to do in my book to take a chance like that hoping he'd produce.

    So what's ya'll's opinion on that... would you have took the chance?
  2. Granite Co.

    Granite Co. Big Dog

    Absolutley Not..
  3. Bxpits

    Bxpits CH Dog

    thats like a one in a million shot but hell there are performers and then there are producers, then what we all aim for is a performer that can reproduce itself. this kind of dog is the hardest to obtain.
    i think the best way is best to best within a loose bred family cause it gives you the chance to tighten it up when it finally clicks for ya JMO
  4. mntman2003

    mntman2003 CH Dog

    seems like lots of old timers did that Pete Sparks mentioned that in a article once stating good dogs may produce worth a dam and cold dogs may produce well...look at Tab?
  5. Scotsman

    Scotsman Top Dog

    The thinking behind it was that if the dog had good dogs backing him/her up in their ped, then it was worth the chance to see what they produced, based only on their pedigree, even though they were poor dogs themselves.
  6. NC

    NC CH Dog

    But would YOU have taken a shot on a 6 minute cur?


    He knew something I dont know but I wouldnt have done it...
  8. Scotsman

    Scotsman Top Dog

    In these days why take the chance, not worth it, but back then things were different and it was of to ok have 50+ dogs without people questioning you. So you could keep them all and see what you got.
  9. Bxpits

    Bxpits CH Dog

    i heard Tab passed his schooling but was not good enough for the box,
    do you know if he was ever matched? or was he cold?
  10. mntman2003

    mntman2003 CH Dog

    I think FB once said something like you can have 2 brothers grow up and one become a alcoholic and the other president ..he said people cull to easy . Been scrambling to find the article..anyone every see it?
  11. mntman2003

    mntman2003 CH Dog

    no one knows for sure but I heard he was cold. I hear lots of things just like everyone else :)
  12. gh32

    gh32 Premium Member Premium Member

    I'm glad he bred him because Nigger turned out some good dogs,but without knowing what I know know about the dogs he produced,no I wouldn't of bred him,if anything I would of shot him.But he produced some good ones,so you never know what kind of pups a dog will put on the ground.
  13. Scotsman

    Scotsman Top Dog

    Sometimes I think the dogs aren't the most important part of the game; it is the gossip and jealousy.
    It is up to the individual the weed out the truth and then put some salt on it.
  14. TheVictor22

    TheVictor22 CH Dog

    Hell 2 the no!!!.

    Hey this maybe a lil off topic but whats the deal with Frisco??? WTF did that dog ever do? :confused:

  15. NC

    NC CH Dog

    I guess the same can be said of his Dibo dog maybe... he was supposedly never touched. Never had a tooth in him... but he's in the back of alot of pedigrees today... maybe old crazy Don just had a good eye for bulldogs... maybe he was lucky.... maybe a combination of the two

  16. bohawg00

    bohawg00 Big Dog

    DM was a bulldog guru who redfined the word dogman as a handler conditioner and breeder......just the mentioning of curs that were or are producers only gives arguement for the jackass' that cur breed for profit or stupidity.
  17. preme

    preme CH Dog

    how old was he nigger..
  18. FrankDublin

    FrankDublin CH Dog

    maby he did stop in six

    this is a touchy subject cause theres probley alot of times you see rom this por that
    and alot of the time it without 1x,2x,ch,grch

    the reason being they were brood stock, no need to damn near kill the begining
    if he/she has the foundation you want
    you breed cull hard breed cull somemore

    they had the freedom to do this and decide which dogs carried the traits they were looking for and wanted to carry on

    frisco was a cold dog if im not mistaken
  19. preme

    preme CH Dog

    frisco was not a cold dog in fact if his daddy didnt die mightwell be talking about him as a great pit dog..he had him hookd for match when chinaman died...
  20. preme

    preme CH Dog

    thats wat i heard of course.

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