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Bruce Jenner

Discussion in 'Controversial and Heated Debate' started by olddog, Jul 6, 2015.

  1. wicked13

    wicked13 CH Dog

    Yup I agree but I still say Bruce should be on fruit loops. Maybe cocoa puffs cause his ass is coocoo
     
  2. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    why he was born that way ?
     
  3. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    what about the damn nazirites ? or the sinners they called them . sounds like skin heads to me 63 . what rites are you talking about ? sorry 63 we wasn't there and we all know man lies so we know that Jesus said he was the son of man not God . he came with a sword to cut the curtain not a cross .
     
  4. niko

    niko CH Dog

    When the Church mythologists established their system, they collected all the writings they could find and managed them as they pleased. It is a matter altogether of uncertainty to us whether such of the writings as now appear under the name of the Old and New Testaments are in the same state in which those collectors say they found them, or whether they added, altered, abridged or dressed them up.

    -Thomas Paine (The Age of Reason)

    The world has been for a long time engaged in writing lives of Jesus... The library of such books has grown since then. But when we come to examine them, one startling fact confronts us: all of these books relate to a personage concerning whom there does not exist a single scrap of contemporary information -- not one! By accepted tradition he was born in the reign of Augustus, the great literary age of the nation of which he was a subject. In the Augustan age historians flourished; poets, orators, critics and travelers abounded. Yet not one mentions the name of Jesus Christ, much less any incident in his life.

    -Moncure D. Conway [1832 - 1907] (Modern Thought)
    Some hoped to penetrate the various accounts and to discover the "historical Jesus". . . and that sorting out "authentic" material in the gospels was virtually impossible in the absence of independent evidence."

    -Elaine Pagels, Professor of Religion at Princeton University
    All four gospels are anonymous texts. The familiar attributions of the Gospels to Matthew, Mark, Luke and John come from the mid-second century and later and we have no good historical reason to accept these attributions.

    -Steve Mason, professor of classics, history and religious studies at York University in Toronto (Bible Review, Feb. 2000, p. 36)
    What one believes and what one can demonstrate historically are usually two different things.

    -Robert J. Miller, Bible scholar, (Bible Review, December 1993, Vol. IX, Number 6, p. 9)
    When it comes to the historical question about the Gospels, I adopt a mediating position-- that is, these are religious records, close to the sources, but they are not in accordance with modern historiographic requirements or professional standards.

    -David Noel Freedman, Bible scholar and general editor of the Anchor Bible series (Bible Review, December 1993, Vol. IX, Number 6, p.34)
    Paul did not write the letters to Timothy to Titus or several others published under his name; and it is unlikely that the apostles Matthew, James, Jude, Peter and John had anything to do with the canonical books ascribed to them.

    -Michael D. Coogan, Professor of religious studies at Stonehill College (Bible Review, June 1994)
    So unreliable were the Gospel accounts that "we can now know almost nothing concerning the life and personality of Jesus."

    -Rudolf Bultmann, University of Marburg, the foremost Protestant scholar in the field in 1926
    The Synoptic Gospels employ techniques that we today associate with fiction.

    -Paul Q. Beeching, Central Connecticut State University (Bible Review, June 1997, Vol. XIII, Number 3, p. 43)
     
  5. patjr

    patjr Top Dog

    Some excerpts taken from a documentary film " The Last Western Heretic."

    [video]http://www.nzonscreen.com/title/the-last-western-heretic-2007[/video]

    [video]www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf-8edICzmg [/video]

    [video]www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM66Rl4bfY0 [/video]
     
  6. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    Yeah just like him talking about tell me what it says..... You have to read it for yourself, anything else is a waste of time.


    It's a hard life, but I'm living.
     
  7. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    Well see when you only read one or two verses at a time you can pretty much make it mean what you want. When you read that in context his disciples would not even go and try to spread his teachings to people that ate unclean food. Christian is suppose to mean "Christ like" well Christ was from the tribe of Yuhuda and followed all "Jewish" customs.


    It's a hard life, but I'm living.
     
  8. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    But in my opinion if your not going to follow the full word of the bible why follow any at all. All that's doing is you deciding which laws and commandments you want to follow. And honestly I think any conversation about transgender will always boil down to ones religious views


    It's a hard life, but I'm living.
     
  9. niko

    niko CH Dog

    Cool links thanx:)
     
  10. niko

    niko CH Dog

    good post cajun:)
     

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