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Bulldogs in Japan.

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by Wally123, Nov 9, 2015.

  1. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    C jacks site.
     
  2. Wally123

    Wally123 Big Dog

    That's another point, nothing can handle a Pit p4p in the stamina stakes but when fighting a big dog like a Tosa they run out of gas pretty quick on the fights I've seen. Wrestling a dog that is 2 or 3 times your size is going to take it out of you.
     
  3. bluedoglover

    bluedoglover Top Dog

    lol! no. a bulldog is all over his opponent usually.they can fight for hours. many tosas cannot go for 25 minutes.
     
  4. Red Cemtre

    Red Cemtre Big Dog

    You've obviously never done any grappling/wrestling. I can promise you from experience in judo that even a 10lb weight advantage can make a massive difference when you're working against their body weight
     
  5. Wally123

    Wally123 Big Dog

    Not when he's facing a dog much bigger than itself, it tires much quicker pushing the heavier weight.
     
  6. bluedoglover

    bluedoglover Top Dog

    it's happened before.

    pit general killed a much larger boar dog. a good stafford killed a GSD. tito beat tano. other apbts have beaten tosa. at least 4-5 times if i remember correctly. tosa only has size over a bulldog.
     
  7. Wally123

    Wally123 Big Dog

    Of course they have the size but they are also a fighting breed as well otherwise any dog larger than the Bulldog would always prevail when matched into one. Tbh as far as dominating fights whilst they want to nothing compares to the Central Asian Ovcharka's of Russia. For such a big dog they have amazing stamina and agility, some have got some guts as well fighting to the hour mark, trouble is they ain't game but it takes a good Bulldog to last 15 minutes with one.
     
  8. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    Size does and will play a part. Let your dog push just 8 - 10 pounds and you will see a pretty big difference in the smaller dogs stamina let alone 50 + pounds. It goes both ways though, the bigger they are the harder their systems have to work to keep oxygenated blood flowing to be able to keep functioning. Bigger, bulkier dogs will gas out faster than smaller more lean dogs will. Look at one right off the chain, then again after a 8 week keep. Humongous difference in the same animals stamina. Take boxing for example, heavy weights do not move like lightweights do. The same can be said about dogs. Size can and will play a big part In the Equation however those other breeds are not game so it quickly evens itself out.
    I used to watch every video I could on Smart Kennels site. They showed a ton of APBT vs much bigger breeds. From Dogos to Kangals to Bandogs to Tosas. 9 times out of ten, the larger breed lost and that was to sub par bulldogs. A good bulldog with a good style to stay out of major trouble during the first 15 to 20 minute onslaught will pick a larger opponent apart once that big dog starts to gas out.
     
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  9. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    Have you ever seen a match before? Lol They aren't normally all over the place. They bite and hold or shake to work a hold most times only letting go to get a better bite. Snapping type dogs that bite every where isn't the norm in this breed and is looked down on by most people.
     
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  10. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    I watched them to AGK..I'm guessing that site is no longer around.
     
  11. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    Last I knew they got shut down.
     
  12. Wally123

    Wally123 Big Dog

    Yep same here, was a good site that was. From what I saw if the bigger dog is a throat dog then the Bulldog is in big trouble and is lucky to survive. A dog like a Kangal is going to kill a Bulldog in short order once on the throat. A good leg dog seems to hold the most success against these big breeds. One of the video clips was a bulldog type dog and a Kangal, the Bulldog got a good leg hold and the Kangal was screaming like mad and eventually run off. The idiot owner though 2 dogged it and put another Kangal on it, the Bulldog got a serious working over but was game to the end, I read that it died soon after.
     
  13. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    I saw that video and your right about the owner...idiot ..I saw a couple videos of that bulldog ..Looked to be a good catch weight bulldog.
     
  14. Wally123

    Wally123 Big Dog

    Yeah the Red and White dog? Not sure if it was a catchweight Bulldog or an American Bulldog type. Those 2 Kangals it went against were monsters. Some Kangal nuthuggers edited the video and only showed the second dog smashing the Bulldog up. Yeah it looked a game animal indeed, those Kangals do a lot of damage fast, still screamed like a bitch once the Bulldog got its leg.
     
  15. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    Yep it was the red one..Could have been a pit / staff cross or something like that..Think the first video I saw he went into a Akita ..somethin like that.
     
  16. Wally123

    Wally123 Big Dog

    just shows you how big those Kangals are, I saw a similar coloured dog go against a black Bulldog and it got quite a hammering. Could have been the same dog, looked very similar. All the videos have mostly disappeared, saw that Tosa Chico beat a red Bulldog at around the hour mark, this was in a ring.
     
  17. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    I saw the red and black dog to..both looked good and yea I think its the same red dog.Both those dogs looked good.
     
  18. Wally123

    Wally123 Big Dog

    I've found a place with a few short clips on ;-)
     
  19. bluedoglover

    bluedoglover Top Dog

    by all over, i mean they get a hold and start going faster. normal dog fights are more....sluggish to me.
     
  20. bluedoglover

    bluedoglover Top Dog

    was the akita brindle? i may have seen that.


    seems to be a popular hold when they're up against a far larger dog. the dog "lehri" i posted is a leg snapper. uses his light weight to his advantage. in regards to kangals, they've got some huge teeth. i knew a guy with a CAO. same huge wolf-like cutters.

    a shame. would've liked to see those.
     

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