Chinaman

I feel you j... I guess one thing thats positive about being new in the game so to speak... You have alot less kennel blindness in most cases... I havent seen too much of anything besides what im runnin (wsk blk cowboy x bolio) plus as you know/said the same line runs different on every yard what works for me may not wrk for u... and im still a younger guy so 15 yrs ago I was just catching the fever... All history of well known dogs I get from here

 

well you are running good dogs then, the best thing you can do is bred your dog to good males of your liking then you know what they are

 

Yea they havent showed me any bad signs... I dnt handle any breedings as of yet though im taking over something my old man n his buddy were doing... I actually have a dog dbl bred on the blk cowboy n bolio n shes hooooot laughn... the only thing I would like to infuse is some more bolio at some pt...

 

I am actually learning alot of the ins n outs of breeding (every one should atleast thnk best to best) but as far as going back maybe a few gens to make a family outcross yet at the same time linebreeding to an extent... And im not going to tell the papers dnt matter to me lie because they do to me...simply because they give u an outline

 

Here's what TG has to say about him and that dog

"Don't trust Blankenship. He is pure conman. He showed up at my place a couple of years ago with a bitch that he claimed was off of the old Leaver Red blood. I ended up with her. A couple of weeks later the previous owners of the bitch happened to be at my place and recognized her. It turns out that she was a pure Staff bitch that they had traded to Blankenship a month earlier. I think Tom Tu is a total fabrication." (TG)

 

I just posted that quote from an early post from this site....

 

What are you trying to prove? That's exactly the gossip that Triple J was talking about. All it shows is that Blankenship thought that TG was a joke and had no respect for him so he gave him the trash he didnt want and kept the good stuff to himself....Tom Tu dog percentages are higher than Frisco by a whole lot if you look at the ratio of breedings,,,in addition, that quote is coming from TG, a proven paper hanger and liar who studied pyschology in college so he knows how to brainwash/con potential customers, he has no credability and btw he didnt breed chinaman, vince romero did...also that quote says nothing about Tom Tu's breeding, it just sounds like he was frustrated and needed to talk crap about Blankenship..also, a few years ago I asked him what he though about Ironline Kennels dogs...and he said "comparing my dogs to his is like comparing a Corvette to a Pinto" he'll talk crap about any breeder whos a threat to his business and people in the game know that there are some great Ironline dogs out there

 

I dont care either way....I stumbled upon that from 2006.Not trying to prove anything.I will say that most of the chinaman/frisco hate seem to be jealousy to me..and honestly there may be a small trustworthy few in these dogs...why?unless you start the line and do all the breedings/culling etc. yourself we all dont really know and cant trust anyone but yourself ultimately....Me personally the only 2 dogmen I can say I have confidence and that I have met and believe most what they say is Tg and Mr.Hammond....both speak highly of the other and seem sincere but again who really knows.

 

Well think what ever ya want All I know is How maney people have you herd talk trash about blankinship? (except TG) and how maney have you herd say bad things about TG? I dont really give two shits about what tom said about Blankingship or visa versa. That dont matter to me, All I know is the dogs we got from it are bulldogs and they have been doing the thing and winning for years Just as Tg . What ever they did to each other is no light on me I belive how the ped says Tom tu was bred I have talked to alot of people about this that knows both of them well and all have said blankingship is truth full about the breeding and they cross well with any of the china stuff and the bullyson stuff so I dont give a shit as long as they are world class dogs, But to be honest with you I think any one that has as much bullshit around there name as tg wouldnt hold water for a smart man as your self, But Im sure you will learn. And 305 China was bred by Dr Kimsey woods

 

Hey Coach..it seems to me that the only guys you can obtain animals from are guys on the internet. And that tells me a lot. ANY person can obtain stock from the 2 guys you claim to have confidence in. The hardest, most bad ass Chinaman hounds aint coming from TG's yard and that' a fact. If your contacts are light then so be it..don't type what you don't know.

 

Thanx for the info coach... Laughn he THINKS tom tu is a total fabrication? I thought he may have been saying that he didnt breed the dog or something... I wouldnt care what someone THOUGHT who changed a mans name to "fat sissy" on an online ped...just to girly for me

 

After seeing 20 million of these fine animals TG let Blankenship trade him a staff? ok....

 

you're dam right syr!

 

Well I understand what your sayin...I believe you when you say what your sayin but do you honestly believe that what Tg is putting out to the general public is his best stock?I don't....there is blood on Tg yard we all don't know about...I think you would have to believe that mr hammonds dogs are world class dogs and you can say the same about some of Tg stock.I do not look at any dogs on the Internet nor would I feed one from the Internet unless it was worth feeding...I do enjoy the conversation though from this site.

 

MK have one of the top chinaman blood.

 

I can respect that Coach..It is what it is. And yes I believe that Gary Hammonds has made a profound impact on our breed. I was just saying that the baddest working Chinaman hounds arent coming from TG. Does he produce some fine dogs? He sure does.

 

I think Tom Garner is one of the best breeders in the world. But like you said does he let his best out no he peddles pups thst a fact thats a shame the good ones from him is as good as they get I seen one that beat the 6xw vacarro in like 23 min now that was a frisco dog to he was a great dog out of one of his great bitches that you cant get nothing from. thats too bad, No one is saying he dont breed up dogs they are saying he is not the most honest man but Hell he is a good breeder if you got the doe and want one get one , I think him and half them big breeders are as full of it as a stuffed turkey

 

bingo TripJ.

nobody with any sense and interest in their future in the breed and their yard lets the best out. thats why ya gotta roll your own

 

Well Im not sure about that I have been to breeders yards that not onley sold me the best they had they have Given me good dogs to try out to show ,now to me thoses are honest breeders they want you to have there best ,They want to make bull dogs not a bunch of moneyoff of any one withit! And you can belive the breeders I premote are for sure not breeding 20 a month up!

 

LMAO well he never talked that crap to me or wanted too.
I had these dogs long before he started buying his way into dogs starting with Pedro look alike.
Kind hard to do so when all those so called champions wasn't done by him.
I also never based a yard on a 5xw who wouldn't curtsey after the scratch in turn or using his untested inbred son who was bred by someone else. His mother Lil Dea won't go straight for 20 and her half brother Rascal Ralph ran into Ch. Iron Bobcat and wasn't wanting to visit very long with Bob. LOL
What do you expect for someone who for years sold pups for $300. and IRS got hold a video where he arguing with Ed Faron on who sold the most pups that year.
This is when the IRS subpoena ADBA for his records.