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Ferguson,Mo

Discussion in 'Controversial and Heated Debate' started by CajunBoulette, Aug 15, 2014.

  1. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    So what are you guys thoughts on the situation. Me personally, I think it fucked up that the cops shot an unarmed man with his hands in the air. But its not the first time and won't be the last if we let it continue.
     
  2. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    I've been following it, it's not right but I'm not surprised. Knowing the area, personally, I wasn't surprised at all. It's a high crime area of STL, was only a matter of time.
     
  3. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    is there a photo of him shot ? i would like to see if he is wearing the same clothes as the guy they claimed stole some cigars . i bet they don't look the same . they're always killing someone and telling a different story .
     
  4. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    I haven't see a pic yet, OG, but the news said it was same clothing and the "red, STL Cardinals" hat that was laying on the ground in the video that I saw is the same hat that was on the dude in the store video. Either way, stealing cigarellos don't deserve to be shot but I believe with 99% certainty it was him. His buddy in the video is the same dude who gave interview with his attorney....he just left out the robbery part lol.
     
  5. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    it's just strange how they now claim he was stealing . kind of like the guy in New Mexico that was camping and they said in was going for a knife and that video you could see he wasn't doing that but he's dead . i was reading that the shorts aren't the same . i sure would like to see the photos .
     
  6. St. Ides

    St. Ides Big Dog

    I firmly believe you wear a tinfoil hat. They aren't just now claiming there was a theft. It was there from the get-go, but was drowned out from the ''completely innocent child gunned down in cold blood'' narrative that incited riots and looting.
     
  7. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    and i firmly believe you believe everything you see on the news lol St.Idles .
     
  8. Mr.Revolution

    Mr.Revolution CH Dog

    Shorts don't look the same but it don't matter even if he robbed the store (strong arm by the way which means no weapon) he still didn't deserve to be shot dead in cold blood.
     
  9. St. Ides

    St. Ides Big Dog

    The difference being I don't automatically assume EVERYTHING is a conspiracy. And I don't get my info from sources like Prison Planet & Above Top Secret. Here's what we know:
    -there was a robbery
    -it is believed the suspects are Michael Brown and Dorian Johnson
    +Dorian Johnson's attorney confirmed the two were involved with the theft (Attorney: Dorian Johnson confirms he was with Brown at store robbery)
    -some type of altercation happened between the suspects & officer
    -Michael Brown was shot & killed

    Unlike some, I don't get caught up in the appeal to emotion and jump to conclusions under the "innocent child" narrative. That's folly for the simple minded.
     
  10. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    I agree it doesn't deserve that either.
     
  11. 305APBT

    305APBT Big Dog

    How many have dealt with the police besides a ticket for speeding? I have had guns pointed at me several times by police and tazed. Biggest gang there is and in the locker room they boast about busting some ass. It's the young police you need to watch for. They got shit to prove to the higher ups whom have busted enough ass. Every town in the USA has these Militarized police with snipers and bomb proof trucks to protect us from "terrorists."

    I say if they(Militarized Police) want to bang send them to Iraq to bust some heads. They give anyone a gun an badge pat on the back. "Go make us some $." "Gotta keep these hotels... I mean prisons full."

    I don't think this is a black/white thing. This was a untrained unqualified person with a gun and got shook and squeezed off. Happens in many situations different outcomes.

    Move to the country.
     
  12. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    ^^ first hand experience myself. But even if the guy walked out with a box of cigars, does that really warrant shooting someone with their hands in the air. Period
     
  13. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    The people should riot, because as long as we keep quiet this bullshit will keep happening
     
  14. Zylonist

    Zylonist Big Dog

    ^^^^^^^^ Wow that's just great, a vital message which everyone needs to hear " the people should riot " I'm sure rioting would solve everything...
     
  15. 87buick

    87buick Top Dog

    I dont think its a proven fact yet with the hands up from the witnesses. But dam that
    Situation is cold.
     
  16. St. Ides

    St. Ides Big Dog

    Yes, let's riot. Let's destroy Sally's Diner for the action of one person, even though there is not a single link between the two.

    Explain how destroying the community brings about positive change.
     
  17. Mr.Revolution

    Mr.Revolution CH Dog

    I just saw the ferguson Mo police cheif give a statement saying officer Darin Williams did not no Mike Brown was a suspect when he stopped him.
     
  18. Mr.Revolution

    Mr.Revolution CH Dog

    He stopped them for walking in the middle of the street.
     
  19. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    St. Ides do you know what robbery is and what theft is ? you posted the link . i guess you don't just like you won't read your deed to your property that tells you that you are a tenant not an owner . the kid was walking in the road when he got stopped and killed . it doesn't matter if he stole cigars he shouldn't have been killed for walking in the road .

    theft the action or crime of stealing.

    robbery the action of robbing a person or place.
     
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  20. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    I do agree that the kid should not have been shot but the law states that was "strong arm robbery", by the state of Missouri's law.

    If he just walked out with them in hand = theft

    Since he shoved and man handles the clerk - strong arm robbery


    Robbery doesn't have to be with a weapon, that would have been "armed robbery"




    Fact is, it was strong arm robbery but the kid should still be with us today.
     

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