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frisco

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by J.W, Apr 17, 2004.

  1. J.W

    J.W Pup

    According to the sporting dog registry, FRISCO has 24 rom points, I talked to a man that has some good frisco blood from frisco's earlier breeding's before the FROZEN SEMEN!!!!!!. He told me that the frozen semen is gone. The money was just to good to say it was. He also said that 3 or 4 of the ROM points are probaly not even points frisco earned! They are points that Rebel yell, elmo , and i think Hickory tree earned, but not credited because it was supposibly a FRISCO breeding. So that goes to show that you never know what you are getting from the man known as TOM'' tha crook '' GARNER[​IMG]
     
  2. KnOck

    KnOck Big Dog

    I heard that somewhere too. That Tom was using Hickory, Elmo and Rebel Yell to breed saying that the breedings were off the frozen semen. Thats really fucked up. A man who has plenty of money as it is and he tricks the public like that. But we all know the saying, "Money is the root of all evil!"

    Knock 'Em Out

     
  3. J M A N

    J M A N Big Dog

    That's pretty much common knowledge. As I have said before......its really easy to become a ROM if you have f***ed every thing that would stand still long enough.



     
  4. BONE

    BONE Pup

    I heard he was also using Doc Holiday...and thats who GR.CH.Shotsie is off of..
     
  5. you hear all kinds of rumors and most of them come from people who are jealous of tg and what frisco has produced.we all know he could produce and we really do not know how much semen garner had off frisco,i mean he was about 13 before he died and garner was one of the first to freeze his studs semen.well if he used frisco sons and still getting ch's,what should that tell you that he was a producer.but tg is the only one that knows how much of frisco's semen he had.well let's talk about how at least half of jeep's points were his brother ch. charlie's,that's what i thought jeep lovers! lol bigmurfdogg!
     
  6. ASA

    ASA Pup

    Good Point.but We All Know Jeep Was A Bad Mutha Fucka!!!
     
  7. Marty

    Marty Guest

    Yea that's what I hear I'm (PROUD) of my jeep dog's they will survive! <TABLE borderColor=#ffffff cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width=95 bgColor=#ffffff borderColorLight=#000000 border=1><TBODY><TR><TD noWrap align=middle>IMO IF YOU DON'T LIKE JEEP DOG'S</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>[​IMG]
     
  8. Redtail74

    Redtail74 Big Dog

    How come everytime someone says something about frisco not producing all the dogs he is said to have produced someone else has to bring up jeep. I think everyone in the free world that has anything to do with these dogs has heard both stories time and time again. It's nothing new and theres nothing anyone can do about it now but make the best out of what we have today. I'm not trying to take a shot at anyone here so I hope no one takes it that way.
     
  9. i am not trying to take anything away from jeep,i don't know personally but from what i hear he was a bad mutha,i am just tired of tg. and frisco being the center of negativity.i love my chinaman/frisco dogs but i love the AMERICAN PITBULL TERRIER MORE! we are all men and should not take another man's opinion to heart.and REDTAIL74 i just thought since we were talking about rumors about frisco we needed to talk about other rumors as well! i am not in any way trying to take away from jeep's accomplishments but on the other hand chinaman and jeep were around at the same time AND CHINAMAN WAS OPEN TO THE WORLD FOR 2YRS WITH NOONE WANTING ANY PART OF THE OLD MAN!but imo jeep could have been open to because the match with homer showed us what jeep was made of!LOL BIGMURFDOGG
     
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  11. Marty

    Marty Guest

     
  12. Bubba

    Bubba Top Dog

    Course breed a dog as many times as Jeep AND Frisco were (and still being bred in Frisco's case) and you are bound to be at the top of the ROM list. In my opinion, the ROM list or the POR list should be based solely on percentages...
    BB
     
  13. blackbeard

    blackbeard Big Dog

    How much longer is it gonna take for some people to get over this topic?
     
  14. KnOck

    KnOck Big Dog

    Sorry to say my brother, but some will never get over it...lol
     
  15. BDK

    BDK oo7

    there will always be rumors in the game world lol and i have to add my 2 cents i talked to tom garner 2 weeks ago and he no longer markets the frisco frozen semen no that disappoints all you ppl lol but frisco is now no longer available for stud and frisco himself has been dead for almost 3 yrs
     
  16. I like TG and unless you were there counting the frozen semen, you should not say anything, the man's record speaks for itself.
     
  17. i agree with you big river kennels tg has done alot for the game and just beacause he was still breeding frisco people are jealous,but if frisco was a cur who would care if he is selling frozen sperm off him,i mean he's a cur and why care ,curs don't produce do they?yeah that's what i thought people know he has thrown good with bad just like any other line.(mostly good) but the dealing i have had thru a mutual friend with tg he has been an honest person and someone who has always imo tried to make sure you understand what you were getting and if things didn't work out you could bring the dog back and he would try to please you! one thing can say about him is that he doesn't like bullshitters and can spot one a mile away.oh yeah what's up bdk i am from frisco's homestate and garner no longer has frozen semen off frisco!(the point i was trying to make was that if tg was still selling frozen semen off frisco and he was a cur and was producing curs and i was the competition i would be like keep breeding curs that would make it easier for the others,but that is not the case and that why people have so much negativity towards tg and frisco!
     
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  18. who

    who Top Dog

    I like the frisco dogs (on paper) but there is alot of constoversy about them Anyone have pups off ELMO and the others if so how are they acting or have they already been proven? thats the only way that this dispute will come to an end in the future IF the dogs still show the CONSISTENCY then ill prolly get one but till then im still a little cautious ...........
     
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  19. Crash97

    Crash97 Top Dog

    I've got one off Elmo x Black Mary, but she's too young to really see anything.
     
  20. I've got an (almost) three year old son of Elmo, bred to Dolly II. He's fantastic!
     

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