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Garner's Santos..frozen sperm offa spike..?

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by bullandterr, Jun 18, 2010.

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  1. Yardboy

    Yardboy CH Dog

    Nothing wrong with breeding good bulldogs. Nothin wrong with sellin good bulldogs to responsible people either. Just not cool to sell to every Tom, Dick, and Harry with a little cash.
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  2. budboy88

    budboy88 CH Dog

    exactly i agree
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  3. Pullingcovers

    Pullingcovers Big Dog

    I had a dog that was just a happy playful pup until he was almost 3
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  4. Pullingcovers

    Pullingcovers Big Dog

    Anyone got anything off Santos
  5. People are entitled to believe what they want. Hell I believed the bs myself for a while.
    I Don’t believe those dogs are off spike.
    Just like that MoMo shit he selling is off a dog named Storm.
    Now he’s got Black and Tans supposedly from those dogs, funny thing is he didn’t have Black and Tans till the Migos dog came to hill...but none of them are paper as being off Migos.
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  6. Pullingcovers

    Pullingcovers Big Dog

    You talking about the grind mode dog right ?
  7. Yep!
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  8. Pullingcovers

    Pullingcovers Big Dog

    I know what your talking about I saw that Doberman looking pup on his sight a friend of a friend drove out there to get 1 off that litter ! I myself couldn’t understand where that color came from but to each his own it’s his money he can spend it how he wants too! I heard dexter is throwing though
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  9. Dexter is 12 or 13 years old.
    Wouldn’t be willing to take that chance.
    I’d go to Bobby Kennels Capone or hit man first.
    Like the NASCAR dog but gotta see how he’s producing, even then I’ll get it from someone else.
    Garner will never get a dime of my money.
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  10. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    Good thing they ban you because you have no idea of what you are talking out lolol .
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  11. 80BOWTIE

    80BOWTIE Big Dog

    Garner got Black and Tans? Excuse me I’m a little late to the discussion
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  12. FrozenEli

    FrozenEli Premium Member Premium Member

    I'm still here Old GOAT, I will be long after your gone as well. That account was shard with CeasarIsis as well. Not all post from Great Expectations was from me.
  13. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    So that was you saying every year the semen loses it's percentage of it's genitic makeup ? LOL who told you that . I hope you still have dogs 40+ years from now and don't think so much about what people say about frozen semen . I haven't seen any of that ever .
  14. various studies have consistently shown that frozen sperm and subsequently thawing alters dna
    the longer its frozen the more the dna changes

    see it like this the longer u smoke the more your dna changes
    there various studies out there
  15. he is right , not kidding he is right I shit you not
    the genetic make up changes significantly , hence why dna profiles stored for criminal purposes only keeps those that dont change

    basiccly if u stored fido after 20 years u breeding to dido
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  16. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    How does the DNA change? I can understand how the sperm count can decrease over time. But how exactly does the DNA change? Please post study on this because I don't understand how the DNA can change?
  17. FrozenEli

    FrozenEli Premium Member Premium Member

    I know a lot more about this shit than I lead on! I've been in the dogs about 26 years, I'll have them until I die Old Goatz
  18. FrozenEli

    FrozenEli Premium Member Premium Member

    31 years sorry
  19. Pullingcovers

    Pullingcovers Big Dog

    When a women goes to the sperm bank and purchases sperm from I guy that looks Arnold Schwarzenegger the child ends up looking like Danny Davido
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  20. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    That doesn't answer my question. The genetic pool within these dogs is fairly small. They basically go back to the same dogs. So how and why is the genealogy changing. I have straws not from my stock as well as straw from my stock. So I'm interested in what is being said about the change of genetic makeup. Not about Arnold Schwarzenegger
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