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...Dalton Morvant was a friend of Floyd Boudreaux' and Dalton started with dogs given to him by Floyd as he did all his friends. Floyd gave him good sons and daughters of BOZE.
Jerry Clemmons bred his Brendy bitch back to BOZE to produce several good dogs. Jerry kept a male called Snort, gave Floyd a famale named Tipp and sold a female to Rick,Tina Halliburton & co. Floyd bred his Tipp bitch back to BOZE to get Ducthboy & Bullet. Cumming's Dutchboy produced a better average of match dogs than Bullet did. Dutchboy wasnt bred as much as Morvant's Bullet. Bullet was atypical BOZE son, he could and would do one in, in a short order. He posted a host of rough mouthed dogs that had no air to get them through the ones that went the distance, so they'd quit. Some wrer blessed with air, I got a bitch by Bullet and a bitch off Boze and out of Glory B, a sister to Riddick's champion Buster. Glory B was a pure Corvino bred bitch.What made her special was i didnt put her down the first day I got her. I Had put down all the other dogs I got off Bullet from Dalton morvant for lack of air & or ability.I believed in the BOZE digs and was sure I would get one like BOZE or Bullet.
...I was working on a shrimp boat in the gulf coast when I was fifteen years old in 1975. We would shrimp for two weeks and be off for three or four days, which was the time I would go to Daltons and either buy a dog or a puppy. That same day if I was lucky I could find one of the locals to roll with. we could roll our dogs in the streets if we wanted to, this was "CAJUN COUNTRY" and every town had several dogmen as it was commen place. No one told you anything aslong as you got out of the way of the passing cars now and then.
...Anyway I was at Daltons and he was bragging on this little bitch pup that was so rough, she was three months so I bought her and from that day on, she was everything he said she was. She was one that would go into a grown dog at a very early age. So after a while, every couple weeks I would find something older and bigger to roll with her and by now she had quite the reputation. Everytime I rolled her she never made turn or was thrown on her back! Soon all the cajuns were talking about my Soo female, I couldnt get a roll for nothing, By the time she was eightteen months old, she was stopping the best of the best of these parts as she was just that good.


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Seeing how bad the other Boudreaux' thread I started and went no where thanks to CIK and Keystone, I will not post the other two thirds of this storey or contribute anyothers to this site till they are gone...
I am a very slow typer and spend too much time relaying good stories to see them railroaded like that, so if you all that already read it are as content as me fine...
If we have talked in pm andyour interested, I can send you parts 2 and 3...
CIK and KEY," WHEN I THROW A DOG A BONE, I DONT WANT TO KNOW HOW IT TASTE"...-Bricktop

 

....." WHO TOOK THE JAM OUT OF YOUR DOUGHNUT? "....-Tommy ( I enjoy that movie SNATCH too....lol )

Hey EP, if you care to send me parts 2/3, I'll add the JAM that this thread deserves..... ( if they are of similar length as part 1, it'll probably take me around 1hr - 1&1/2hrs to type out lol )

 

elias you sound like a child who only wants folks to play his way or takes his toys home with him, you maed a thread to which I psoted a reply asking a legitmate question based on the content of your thread to start a conversation to which you obviously don't have an interest or the guts to get to the bottom of it as your obviously so one sided in your love for Floyd not even jesus christ himself could convince you otherwise about blind billy ,so maybe theres another blind one called elias pistol, but when a man starts asking for others to be banned as you have with me and key , over a simple question , it tells me that man is a cur .

 

Omg another one of these you won't argue back and forth with me over the internet so your a cur guys lmao


March isn't the only month for Madness!!

 

Cajun it isn't that one of these guys wont argue with me , lets not try and turn it around and deflect as you like to do, its that you being one of those guys who have yet to only ever post on any issue regading biily or eli with posts like your recent one above form which we learn absoloutley nothing, not once have you ever tried to make a case that maybe im wrong based on the info we all have to hand , like the dobs which I didn't invent nor did Mayfield , from floyds own words regarding billys year of birth and who he got him from , and the well known story of how dibo became the famous stud dog he became and his arrival at tudors yard, all of which was not made up by me or mayfield but by the men of that era including tudor and floyd himself, so if you or others cant bring yourself to say what any normal human being would when looking at the info on billy becasue it doesnt take a genius to realise something dont add up , then at least be man enough to say so, but i think you feel that posting LMAO will somehow make the info go away , but the info will not go away cajun it is the same today as it will be tommorow and was 50 yrs ago , but im betting that if it was mayfield who had billy and not floyd , you would be usng the same info i have shown to make the same point im making , but then again you probably are a cur like elias and have to much to lose but i live in hope that im wrong and maybe one day you too might find the courage to take the i love floyd glasses off .

 

Lol I have to much to loose, you speak as if I make a living off anything involved with you silly argument about Billy and Dibo. I addresses your "evidence" on the other post and feel it is utterly stupid to say let's look at the ADBA paperwork and take the DOB as fact but then say the rest of the document is false, evidence doesn't work that way buddy.


March isn't the only month for Madness!!

 

Cajun what other documents have I said are are false? by the way I have only been asking the question in my posts about billy as to whether there maybe some reason to doubt his pedigree, and so far I am the only one who has tried to show that by the dobs /timeline and known story on dibo etc, or are you now disputing those known facts cajun ?I would love for you or anyone else to convince me I got it wrong but so far you nor anyone else has shown any serious counter argument for it ,and unlike some of you who call me a Mayfield groupie, if the shoe had been on the other foot and don was claiming billy to be bred as his ped shows, and you or another hater had said, hey take a look at this and made the same argument I am making with dobs etc, I would have actually agreed with you that does look fishy , but then again I like to know the truth when I can find it, but some folks like to stay blind to the truth it suits there yard better that way.

 

You say he is not bred as stated, but then you use those same papers to say the DOB is a fact we know..... If the DOB on the papers are as you say fact then how can you say the rest is not fact?


March isn't the only month for Madness!!

 

Caj and others, do' em like I did Iron Mike and forget about it and ignore it...
Dont give'em the time of day and watch'em fall apart...

 

...There were several other good brood dogs in the area. James Doshotel bought Rocky who was by Loposay's Buster ex Morgan's Sandy. He was a littermate to Irish Tom's justice as well as Young's Sundance. Rocky produced several really good dogs that could bite. My bitch could and would take em' out if she ever got one down, she was so strong. I'd take her everywhere with me. While the boat was getting repaired I knew i had time to check my little bitch and make some money.
So after some ten days and twenty bitches, she finally quit on me. I got rid of her as I was always told they'd quit agian (smart wasn't I?). She was a double granddaughter of BOZE and the best dog I have ever owned! For the record she was just wormed two hours before these rolls had began, she quit after crippling three bitches back to back. I should have never pushed her in without being in shape.
...Floyd and Deshotel bought CHAMION ARTY dog from Ray Ramsey on halves. He was only a two time winner and remained that way till the day he died. He was not a champion, but produced a good percentage while at Floyds house. Floyd and the Kemmer brothers bought Pushrod (Macho) and he also produced a good percentage of match dogs. Fred Stelly had Sanford off Buster ex Queen and a full brother to the Larson's Red Ed and Sam dogs. He produced a good percentage of match dogs as well. All this time Floyd was breeding dogs his own way by putting both BOZE and ELI in them. By now both Bullyson and Eli Jr. had made names for themselves by producing dogs that could produce and so on. After all the dust has setteled, Floyd is one that all the old timers and new comers alike can be comfortable getting a superior bulldog from.
...I got lucky and Floyd took me under his wing at an early age so i never had to pay from a dog from him. I feel I've seen some of the best out there and owned some myself from other bloodlines and havn't been impressed enought to compare to what I've seen from Floyds dogs. Oh'sure I've seen some great athletes from other bloodlines, but only on a occasion have I seen whole litters of good ones. On occasion they could produce well too and while I dont want to take anything away from any other breeder, Floyd has bred generation after generation for his friends to compete with in todays fastlane.

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Cajun what rest is not fact , I have only used the dobs etc what other rest are you talking about, ?

 

elais your the only one here whos falling apart , you throw your little girls tantrum then faced with a few a pieces of info that if I am wrong should be easy for you to dispute in an inteligente and logical way,but so far nothing from you but tantrums , if you think Floyd is telling the truth , then fight his corner with some counter arguments, otherwise as they say silence is golden

 

You are using the DOB from ADBA paper work, but saying the rest of the information on that same paper work is false.... That's not how evidence works. You can't use the paperwork and say this DOB is fact but the rest is a lie


March isn't the only month for Madness!!

 

no cajun i am saying that i dont believe any of the ped on billy period , that means the dob or year of birth or the sire and dam , all i have done is pick up the smoking gun floyd left at the scene , i have not added any info or made any up ,so where you get me using the dob on billy as fact and not believing the rest of his ped im not sure , what im saying is that if billy was born in the year as stated by floyd , then i dont believe he is sired by dibo, and imo the whole ped for billy is a lie in regard to being a son of dibo , i hope that makes this clear once and for all .

 

You are the one that said you were using the ADBA registration as proof of the DOB. But as someone else brought up, DM was supposedly good friends with Tudor...... Seems like it would have been very easy to prove his claims if he would just have asked him and HH.... Yet you can't see this???


March isn't the only month for Madness!!

 

Cajun I was using the info which happens to be the dobs known on the dogs be it papers or floyds own words , which I think I have explained enough today , but you seem to keep using the same old why didn't don say anything and why didn't don ask tudor or heinzl, well if that's your excuse to make the dobs any less suspiscious then fine , but why is that just because you might have asked tudor that don should have also,? maybe just like with eli , don decided to let it be , and don't forget this was back when making a long distance call wasn't an everyday deal folks would write letters more than call back then, ,but had it been today im sure things would have been different , with the internet to hand, but what would be interesting to know from the adba ,is who registered the litter that billy was supposed to be out of if a litter was ever registered, and who registered billy, im guessing it was Floyd who registered billy not tudor ,but if none of you feel that there are some questions to be answered about the discrepancies, then I find that rather strange , as it was the first thing that hit me when I looked at the story .By the way you say it should have been easy for Mayfield to prove billy was not bred as papered , but your taking it as read that he had all the facts to hand that we have today, but all he had was a gut feeling , he probably didn't get ot know the exact year that Floyd claimed on billys dob until years later when he sen floyds interview with the story,andby then tudor was already dead and heinzl also, so being the way he was he didn't have more than a feeling about billy ,but im only guessing based on what was known at the time , whats more important is what info we have today, which allows us to be more forthwirght in our beliefs and make a more reasoned decision about it, if we don't keep the blinkers on .

 

Ronnie Duhon bought champion Pistol Pete from R.Sorrells and bred him to tight grandchampion Boomerang bithes and got a few great little dogs, but agian no percentages. Diamond Jim bought his dogs from B.Cox, J.hayward and Spider and agian a few good one but yet no percentages. I speak tp people worldwide about percentages. Benny Bob and Bullyson jr. and a bitch the Creels had wereall great littermates. Benny Bob beat his sire Bullyson and lost to the great Jimmy Boots in almost two hours. Champion Bullyson jr. lost to the great Tombstone in almost two hours also and the bitch the Creels had never met her equal. You might say "two lost in the same litter!" but I'd say that was pretty good precentages when you consider their wern't too many greats at the same wieght back in that time and both Jimmy Boots and Tombstone were considered ACE head dogs and one might consider the greatness from this litter of three.
...Besides who ever heard of jimmy Boots having any littermates of any count? And how about Tombstone, anyone remeber anything from the litter he was in?
I didn't think so. They were both good dogs that produced well even. My point is that it took ACE quality dogs to beat dogs from Floyds family of dogs. If you want
to raise multiple dogs for years to get one good one that can really compete, go for it. But if you want dogs that can go anywhere and compete, come in every litter and generation you should try the Boudreaux' line.
...Now I am not saying the Eli or Bullyson line but I mean Floyds line. i had the pleasure of seeing them and hearing about too many good ones coming out of just one yard generation after generation and i dont go anywhere else for my dogs. Its simple I know Floyd and his dogs well, the good traits as well as the bad ones and i know every litter bred by floyd is for Floyd and his friends in todays world, and if they work he uses them in the next generation, its that simple. Every litter is whelped in hopes of having the greatest litter ever! In his words, " they should all have a chance", but he would also say "but they probably wont all be good as long as more tahn not!" In my opinion, Floyds dogs are some of the better dogs of today. There are other good bloodlines, but not as plEntiful.
...signed "SEF" a believer in Boudreaux' dogs...

 

I relayed this as a good read feom a friends magizine collection that I had the pleasure of reading and passing on to the next friend thats intersted...
Because the way the two threads and shares from SEF went so poorly, I will not share anything anymore as it seems to be a waste of my time...
I come to this site longing for old bulldog talk, after loosing a friend that seemed to be a walking dictionary, encyclopedia and diary of evrything bulldog related...
I realize alot of people think one way or another and made an effort to change others thoughts on certian things just as my mind had been changed and molded by reading, talking and practicing what we learn. I sure miss my old buddy who was a navy vet and days like this are extra heavy, I made sure to out his name out there and believe though modest, his legacy will be inedlible...
THIS MEMORIAL DAY MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS GO OUT TOU YOU AND YOUR FAMILY...
STEVE "DIRTY"DIXON I HOPE TO SEE YOU ONE DAY IN A PLACE WHERE THE BEER IS COLD AND THE BULLDOGS NEVER RUN HOT...

 

Thanks for that EP. I'm glad you completed what you intended to share with this forum.