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can't find nothing in both topics that have to do with selling a dog/pup ...advertising ect ..
from both side's


its about the eli family bred by don mayfield and floyd took the fame

 

Even if you believe the Crybaby story how in the hell can you give him credit for generations of breeding he had nothing to do with


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he bred eli

 

Lol well then the credit goes to whoever bred crybaby and the dogs before her. Even if the crybaby story was true it still doesn't change what happened after Eli came about and you can't deny that. Otherwise we should just trace back and find the name of the person that first decided to do a bull and terrier cross and attribute every dog ever bred to them


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Cajun I agree with you the credit as I said before goes to the breeder ,so in the case of eli lets say he was out of crybaby, then as Mayfield made the breeding he should have gotten the credit for that litter , and the dogs Floyd bred up after that he gets credit for that , but with a slight difference and I think that's what key meant .


I think what key is trying to say , and if im wrong im sure he will tell me , but I think he means that because of stealing that litter he was able to then become famous for breeding that eli family , as it was only after eli that Floyd started to really get more of a name as a breeder , which is like a man who writes books but never really made it to the best sellers list, then he takes another mans work and passes it off as his own (in this case the eli litter supposedly down from his billy line) and because the other mans work (in this case the breeding don made ) was exceptionally good and a lot better than he had been able to write ( in this case breed upto that point) then he becomes famous because of it, so although Floyd bred the dogs that came after eli, they were so much better than what he had before that time, that he realy didn't need to do very much to get good dogs ,so he gets the credit ,but not as much as if he had really bred eli and that litter and not stolen it instead, that certainly deducts some brownie points in my book .

 

yes don owned the bitch and made the breeding ...and asked floyd if he was so polite to look after cople of his dogs this til had solved private problem some how
(believe me its a big problem when you ask somebody else to look after your for a whi;e )


cajun qeustion ...have you ever seen a dog of yours apearing with a different ped on him ....then the way you bred him or your friend bred him ....??/
i can tel its weird lol

 

right its about a whole litter shit ...

 

Well all else aside we can sure be glad that whatever happened with the breeding and those pups, that Floyd got those dogs because looking at where both families went the dogs/line Floyd has bred is a much better family if speaking performance, percentages and longevity that is. Question, how many times did DM do this breeding? One would think if it was so great in hindsight he would have based his own yard off of those same dogs and there descendants? maybe they were not pure enough?

 

no war
when you stil a dog(whole litter)fake the ped
lowest of the lowest

 

steal........................

 

maverick .........

 

war i could choose beginning 80 ties ..where i buy my first dog ........
til today i am so happy that i start ..with don and i believed ..and send my money first lol

 

war you have to know that evrybody wanted them tudor dogs ..in those days ...cry baby was one of the best winning bitches on that moment .floyd jumped the air when don asked him to look after his dogs ect ect

 

And besides Eli what other dogs allegedly came from that Litter? Wasnt the litter off Eli and Spook allegedly better than their sire? Did Don breed Spook as well?

 

crybaby died before don could breed her again .

 

Yet you say that Floyd didn't have access to Dons genes..... So why would you ask someone to look after your dogs if you wouldn't let em get a breeding???


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when he said to don ..he i like the dog you got there ...can i breed with it ?
i think they could work that out ...

 

Cajun its not that floyd did or didnt have access to dons genes, maybe he did maybe he didnt , but Floyd supposedly already had those dibo genes via billy etc, so for him to have asked don to breed to his genes or ask for a dog would have been a bit obvious , seeing as at that time don hadn't got nigger on his yard yet, but was going more into the heavy dibo genes ,of which crybaby was one .


Cajun let me ask you a question , its seems like you are always looking for a way out of having to accept that billy and msot likely eli are not bred as papered , and anytime either myself or key try to explain it, you look for a reason to doubt it eventhough the facts look otherwise , at least with billy, and more than likely eli also ,but rather than maybe accept it may well be true , you look for a way out , so cajun do you believe billy is bred as papered ? and do you think with all your years with these dogs, that eli and that family that came from him , was the product of scrub x candy and not crybaby x little cotton ?

 

The only dogs breeding I'm sure of are the ones I've done personally and others within my circle. And with all these years in dogs one thing I have learned is that I don't make assumptions based on the color of a dog or how it looks as to how it is bred. I know some people with dogs that look identical to mine that are bred a lot different. You assume I am looking for a way to prove FB is right and all I'm simply doing is pointing out the fact that everything you hinge your argument on are assumptions that you feel are correct, but just because you think they are true doesn't make them facts. I've stated many times that to me it doesn't really matter one way or the other, maybe in the 60's it would have mattered to me but it doesn't now seeing as how 10 generations back doesn't have much bearing


March isn't the only month for Madness!!

 

OPen minded does only go in one direction ,,in your head ,,you keep writing post after post ,,like a expert ,,about something you know nothing about ,,,all you have is hearsay...