how many Reid crosses was there?....lets try and list em all.

The dog on the mill without a belt

 

I don't know the guy at all. Vicki hired him. Couldn't even tell you what he did or if any of the issues actually got fixed.

 

Then thanks to Vicki.
At least he also made your thread better visible. That's why I thought you know him.
It's just weird that only at a few threads can pics be seen by all

 

Oldguy did not know violet was a ch she was a 2xw after her 2nd race she was retired I was told.

 

IMO Violet was straight champion, but you're right she was a 2xw, it's only a matter of where you stand on #3, there's controversy over that, but my opinion there's zero controversy and Violet a straight champion that got cheated out of her title.

 

Oldguy she was a legitimate 2xw she was never raced for her 3rd correct me if I am wrong mate.
It was during her 2nd race where the drink got too much for solo and he got his .

 

You might be right on that, but everyone I spoke to said, Violet and owner played within rules and had win in bag, the controversy comes later and people I talked to all said Violet cheated out of her title that day, perhaps that's wrong? I wasn't there, it was controversial for sure and Violet was interesting cross to me.

 

Pmk is right imo.. I liked the dog brown baby out of violet

 

I don't think there's any doubt Violet won the controversial hunt? Big question is.. Was Violet a 1 or 2XW prior to that show? Be good to hear truth on that? I think Violet deserves that? If she's genuinely a 2XW, then it takes nothing away from her quality as an athlete or performer, but many people I know called Violet a bonafide champion.. Anyone?

 

Oldguy she did not

It was red baby a decent animal who lost on his first hunt just got out performed and conditioned.
He got put forward when his moma violet was called out and the offer to race was not taken.

 

Oldguy nothing controversial mate she won 2 legitimate races.
So in my opinion she is only a 2xw and just to put the story straight about the controversial ending well that's another story from the pages of history lol...

 

I don't follow sorry! Are you saying the controversial show that was stopped and declared "null & void" was not a win for Violet?
Are you saying Violet was already a 2XW and because last show was ruled "null & void" then Violet remained a 2XW?
Are you saying that Violet only had 2 shows and the "null & void" show was one of them and therefore are you including that show in Violet's achievements?
Apologies if I'm confusing you, but it's something I'm interested in?

 

@Woodsy.

I used to be in to bull cross lurchers myself, ran fox, deer, etc....
How did yours work out?
People on here scoffed at me when I said I've seen 1st bull/greyhounds with more finish than a pure bulldog but I've seen it with my own eyes.

 

So are you saying Violet was a legit 2xw, then she went for #3, then that show ended in controversy and Violet remained 2xw?
Was Violet going for #3 in the show that ended in controversy? Was that her third outing?

 

Oldguy violet only had 2 shows 1st was a easy race with a boyles female and 2nd ended in controversy but was still a win for her.

 

Violet was a 2xw that went into Oddbod for her 3rd. My understanding is Violet was well ahead and Solo was playing up to the crowd and wasn’t attempting to handle, in his frustration Oddbod smacked Solo and Solo picked his gyp up and left. The ref declared the match bull & void. So Violet remains a 2xw.

 

@blueboy Basically exact same way I heard it.. Odbod knocked opposing handler clean out in middle of the box, then sunk his boot into Violet.. That's a straight disqualification, making Violet winner on a foul, even though she ahead anyway.

IMO the only hurdle to Violet being recognised as Champion is the judge that day declared show 'null & void'.. Problem is there's rules for these type of situations, and rules clearly state should any handler interfere with opponent or his dog, then the judge must declare that handler the loser! I'm also aware that judges decision is final, but that same judge clearly failed to implement the rules, and later acknowledged his mistake.. So for me it just sticks out a mile that Violet was a bonafide 3xw and worthy champion .

 

Why he didn’t foul out and declare Violet the winner, I don’t know. He is a member so maybe he’ll chime in will his reasoning for declaring the match was null & void. As he did it remains as that Violet stays a 2xw.

 

Why he didn’t foul out and declare Violet the winner, I don’t know. He is a member so maybe he’ll chime in will his reasoning for declaring the match was null & void. As he did it remains as that Violet stays a 2xw.

 

I get that, but where in Cajun Rules does it say anything about declaring a show 'null & void'? I can understand if both handlers got together with judge prior to show and decided to add a 'null & void' clause into existing Cajun rules, then ok, but to get knocked clean out, then wake up to find not only is your jaw broken, but your dog been cheated out of it's title because the judge implemented a mystery 'null & void' rule, instead of the straight disqualification merited by Odbod's actions.. It's an interesting situation and I'd welcome others views on it, but IMO Violet was a Champion by merit of the clearly stated Cajun rules.