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Also do you don’t get it misconstrued by “initial setting of the bible” I am referring to the Garden of Eden which evidence has shown that it was Africa.

 

Not that I am still reading everything posted here, but Cheddar Man does not "prove" that everyone came from black men. Cheddar Man does change some theories on the time scale of pigmentation development (had dark skin and light eyes long after light skin started developing in Europeans) but the theory that all humans came out of Africa was established separately and is now a law, much moe than just a theory.

Cheddar Man does not change the observation that a separate set of skills was needed to adapt to life in the much colder climate of Europe, particularly Northern Europe, than Africa. To understand this different skill set start by looking at the two predominant types of hunting, persistence hunting (Africa) and Ambush hunting (Europe).

 

No. I'm a troll in conversations like this.

 

Now you have lost all credibility. the Bible is a story of men written by men. A Strict interpretation puts the Earth at around 5k years old when in fact science and all evidence tells us that it is billions of years old. There was no Garden of Eden in Africa, or anywhere else. We can talk about facts, science, and empirical evidence, but not in he context of the Bible which is pure fiction.

 

Slavery dates back more than 6 thousand years. You are correct that Cheddar has no impact upon the fact that all humans originated in Africa, that is a separate and 100% proven theory bereft of Cheddar. A poll of scientists posited that the chances that Cheddar had dark skin were about 76%. However, it is also very possible that Cheddar's ancestors simply were late migrations (10k years ago) to Europe. There were already light skinned people living there who had migrated 25k plus years before, but had died out.

 

I agree this thread has been hilarious. Slinging The Bible quotes at each other really had my sides splitting. Some real zingers.

 

If you read what I wrote, I explained that I was providing the biblical and scientific approach depending on what you choose to believe. I am not an atheist so that why I provided a solution to both theories. I wasn’t correlating people originating from africa to cheddarman. I was providing an example that the oldest complete fossil in Britain (Europe) was of a POC. Please provide the resource to the information that suggests their were light-skinned people in britain before cheddarman cause I am interested in seeing that. The revelation dude said people didn’t come from Africa which was false. Bible or Science evidence shows that Africa is where everyone came from.

 

You are as quick to assume victimhood as BKK! Nobody cares if your mom is white, your dad is black, or if you identify as a one eyed, one horned flying purple people eater. I did say some scientist have refuted it... for the exact reason I gave, that 10k year old dna is about as reliable as free pass to Heaven from Joel Osteen Ministries. And since on the topic of Heaven, please enlighten me to where the Bible states that mankind was generated in Africa? As someone who studies Apologetics, I have yet to see anything that labels Adam and Eve as Africans. Am I stating that it isn't possible? No, not at all. What I AM saying is that people who speak so vehemently without actual proof (when it comes to any topic) just showcase their Ignorance. Fact is, the only claim the Bible makes is that God created Adam from the dust of the earth, and Eve from his ribs. Many people have tried to pinpoint where the Garden of Eden was located, by Biblical clues, and the best they can come up with is somewhere between Ethiopia and the middle east, but it is speculation at best.
As far as John Punch, who really cares if he was the first African enslaved in colonial America? As I stated, Africans had been enslaved for 200 years prior to that in Europe.

Facts don't give a shit about your personal feelings. Your commentary is no different than that of BKK.

 

“Studies have shown”
What’s the matter running outta greenhorns to scam out their money?
The $3500 trash done went to “ what you got to invest” speaking with you is a waste of time as you are a phenomenal liar, but this shit right here is Priceless lol.

 

This is what we need to get back to! All the race and religion and higgity hooplah is what Facebook is for! Let's talk dogs and clown on the clowns!

 

First, don't think I am being adversarial...I like that you brought up Cheddar as he was most certainly an interesting find and yes I believe was one of the earliest complete skeletons found in that area. Probably died from violence 10 k years ago.

As far as the development of light skin the standard explanation is that is started happening as early as 50k years ago when the first humans left Africa. There has been some revisionist work recently that claims that is was a later development, but that claim must be viewed in the light of how the academic world works: Politically Correct work gets more attention and funding especially nowadays. If you are woke, you won't go broke. It bears pointing out that the claim that light skin is only 8k years old comes from one study (and a small one, it was just a paper article, not a book) not a body of work. Cheddar is a very small piece of that work. Honestly, I view this work as a fad. Interesting, but nothing close to the massive body of work that drove the original conclusion that light skin started developing as far back as 50 k years ago.

Common sense tells us that as soon as you move from a place like Africa into a place like Europe you are going to start adapting. Having said that, European migration did not happen al at once, it happened in stages. The biggest burst was around 40k years ago, but those people hung out in what is modern day Kazakstan for about 5 k years (yaaay Borat). Interestingly, lighter skin began developing in Asia about 30 k years ago.

If you really want to pin down the time from the huge body of work on the topic, the main change in color happened between 28 and 20 k years ago.

The best overview of the topic, IMO, is the article in Wikipedia: Light_skin If you read wiki, you will know that is has a heavy bias to the left side of the political spectrum. Therefore if wiki agrees with traditional theory, I am putting my money there.

 

Incorrect. The garden of eden was at the head of the Persian Gulf, in southern Mesopotamia (now Iraq) where the Tigris and Euphrates rivers run into the sea.

 

Revelator aka BKK please point out where I acted like a victim?? The original person literally brought up Anthony Johnson (who was a black indentured servant who owned a slave) or did you not read that or did just blatantly ignore it? I refuted that with John Punch. This entire time we have been talking about America. If you are gonna enter a conversation atleast read the context first lmao. That’s just ignorant. Why is it a problem that you came from someone with brown skin? The bible didn’t explicitly state where it occurred but it is speculated to be around ethiopia to middle east (like you said)… nobody is speculating europe..: moral of the story you come from a brown/black person. Me stating my ethnicity was a way to show that i’m impartial either way and don’t have an inherent biased and have nothing to gain. And if it didn’t matter to you why bring it up instead of just ignoring it? Not showing proof? I’ve sent hella links already.https://www.science.org/content/art...study-claiming-pinpoint-birthplace-all-humans
Show me where scientist refuted cheddarman? If you did study apologetics. Then you would know you can’t make a statement without citing your source. Now that’s something you learn in middle school english.
On another note the funny thing we are calling one another BKK as an insult haha

 

You dumb fucking clown BKK? Enter the conversation?! There are 20 pages here of me shitting ALL over that fool.
Point out where you act like BKK? How about the sentence where you just asked "why is it a problem you come from someone with brown skin?" Where have I stated ONE FUCKING TIME that I was offended by such a proclamation? THIS is why you are just as fucking dumb as BKK, you make shit up, put untrue words in someone else's mouth, and play like the world is ashamed to admit they have ties to black people. You speak in hyperbole, whataboutisms and just absolute horseshit.
I never said the Bible speculated it, if my wording alluded to that, I apologize for the confusion. The Bible speaks to where it was located in Genesis 2:10-14

"10 A river flowed from the land of Eden, watering the garden and then dividing into four branches. 11 The first branch, called the Pishon, flowed around the entire land of Havilah, where gold is found. 12 The gold of that land is exceptionally pure; aromatic resin and onyx stone are also found there. 13 The second branch, called the Gihon, flowed around the entire land of Cush. 14 The third branch, called the Tigris, flowed east of the land of Asshur. The fourth branch is called the Euphrates."

THIS is why it is believed to be located between Ethiopia and the middle east. And once again, YOU make up talking points, I never once told you that me, nor anyone else, speculated it was in Europe. I wasn't sure there was anyone who could rival the ignorance of BKK, but you are proving to be some stiff competition for him.

 

Although everything is indeed speculative that theory is one of many. And excludes that Gihon was located in Cush which is modern day Ethiopia. We also don’t even know where Pishon is. So I do admit I did speak with too much zest saying it was in Africa with so much certainty but there is a chance it was.

 

You are acting like a nigga right now. IGNORANT. And here you go again not understanding. I quoted “ssdd” and you quoted me but evidently you didn’t read what I wrote him. And my initial point of cheddarman wasn’t to say everyone descended off him but that there was a darker complexion man in britain and he is the oldest fossil there. If you are gonna refute scientific evidence what’s even the point in even having scientists. Or are you only gonna accept evidence if it fits your narrative? The conversation was initially between A (me) and B (ssdd) but you intruded on it. Then you came in with no context arguing with me and didn’t even understand the entire situation lol. Shitting on him? Want a cookie he’s done a pretty good job of that himself. You been making up shit this entire time. Talking shit about me bringing up John Punch when the original person alluded to Anthony Johnson “the first person to own a slave and he was a black indentured servant”. You came in talking about portugese enslaved Africans 200 years before that but we were literally talking about America. Then you concluded from what I said that cheddarman was the sole reason everyone originated from Africa? And also exclaimed that “SCIENTISTS REFUTE IT”. I CONCLUDED FROM THAT, THAT YOU WERE IN DENIAL OF YOUR ORIGINS. How else did you expect me to take it? Scientists who have a PHD did research with 76% certainty that he was black and you claim it’s false. YOU STILL HAVENT PROVIDED THE SOURCE OF INFORMATION OF WHERE THEY REFUTED IT BTW. Are you illiterate cause I’ve been asking multiple times? I’ve been reading for 20 pages as well and dying laughing every minute of it. The Europe point was nothing more than sarcasm. I didn’t realize you took everything so literal. Lastly I didn’t make anything up. You made a dumbass statement and didn’t specify your stance. Only a fool would claim cheddarman was false and still not post any evidence contrary to that belief. I’m “making stuff up” but I have provided sources for most of my statements and you haven’t provided anything. https://mymodernmet.com/cheddar-man-relative/
Here is another source isn’t this 5 sources for Dsavv and 0 for Revelator. I also sent you the Jane Elliott did you watch it? Or are you refuting that with your imaginary scientists? So unless you are gonna provide sources that are reliable ie: .edu, .gov, scholarly journals. I have nothing more to say.

 

It seems a point I made earlier about Cheddar bears repeating: Yes he was probably dark skinned, and yes he lived about 10k years ago. A paper came out and the PC driven scientific community jumped all over it to posit that light skin is a more recent phenomena. However there is way more evidence (and common sense) that refutes that claim. First, The spread from Africa to Europe did not happen all at once, it happened in waves. The biggest wave was about 40k years ago and that wave mostly stayed in what is today modern Kazakstan for about 5k years, and then some went to Europe and some int to Asia. We have tons of evidence that Asians then developed lighter skin (20 to 30 k years ago) so why not Europeans? There were subsequent waves. Cheddar was simply a later wave, and probably lived around lighter skinned people, or around places where lighter skinned populations died out. Also it is basic common sense: When you go from someplace like Africa which has tons of sun, to some place like Europe which does not, at least for a substantial portion of the year, black skin is a death sentence because you probably will not get/make enough vitamin D3 and you will die out. In any event, all people did come rom Africa and light skin I am 95% sure developed long before Cheddar. BTW....my academic credentials are not in this area (although Evolutionary Biology is a hobby of mine) but I was in academia long enough to know that science is often driven by politics. IMO, the "light skin is a recent phenomena" is driven by wokeism.....but I digress (which admittedly I do a lot).

OK, now back to the dog argument....which is pretty f'en lame here, but....

 

This is the time where we have to educate people because folks with ill intentions have jealousy and envy of a particular individual that's doing great things make themselves look stupid when they don't have the knowledge but they think they're actually firing shots that are hitting the target. $3,500 animals are gene pool dogs which hold the most value. BKK has made crosses that BKK is giving the community an opportunity to get a hold of some nice working dogs because whether it be cross dogs or whether their dogs in the tightest form if you get them from BKK you're still going to get a quality animal. You guys complain either way but at the end of the day who are we talking about?? BKK! And why are we talking about BKK? Because BKK is worth talking about. Keep up the great work

 

The 400 years of bondage is over and now we're dealing with a spiritual war because edomites know that their time is up. AKA the caucuses mountain people.

 

The honest truth of the matter is BKK is putting people in positions to produce phenomenal Bulldogs and BKK animals are working and producing. If we're talking about honesty let's go with that honesty. Let's go with the honesty that people are jealous and envious of Bkk. Let's go with the honesty that the foundation of our dog community is based off of KKK members. You guys are not about honesty and the truth. You guys are all about lies. It's the truth you despise