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Old game Bred Bull terriers

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by Box Bulldog, Aug 13, 2016.

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  1. Lrs

    Lrs Big Dog

    True but I don't get on with saluki bred dogs damn anti social buggers lol.. plus basil can move fast on open ground.
     
  2. DogMan85

    DogMan85 Banned

    You got a 3/4?
     
  3. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Top Dog

    They are less game than a apbt but are still plenty game enough. Not as quick as a greyhound cross but not slow by any means. They are not weak at all, actually they are probably as strong as any dog there size. They are very good all around dogs I can't say one bad thing about them. The fellow I know that breeds them and competes in catching events does very well with his up against lots of other breeds.
     
  4. Robertosilva

    Robertosilva CH Dog

    People use lots of different breeds, it's what works for them. If they didn't then they wouldn't use them. It's just much easier to create or buy a good Bull x Greyhound than trawl through the small amount of working Dogo and Bull Terriers. It's also much easier to find an American Bulldog from working lines than a lot of the other breeds. The Bull x Grey is probably one of the most versatile dogs, faster than a Dogo, APBT, American Bulldog etc. Has good mouth, is strong, good prey drive, the all round temperament of the APBT and greyhound combined, can be a protector as well.
     
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  5. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Top Dog

    Very true, What about a Irish Wolfhound? Could they not be as good or better than a bull x grey? I have only seen Irish Wolfhounds as pets being walked but have never been able to see one in action but have been told there good. My Grandfather new a man as a boy that use to catch wolves and coyotes for fur. He had a horse drawn sleigh or trailer with dog boxes with doors on it. He had Greyhounds to catch and one Irish Wolfhound to kill. I was told by me Grandfather that he would release all the dogs when the target was spotted the Greyhounds were faster than the Wolfhound slightly and they would catch and try and flip the animal that they were after then the wolf hound would be just behind and he was what my Grandfather called the kill dog and he would finish the job.
     
  6. bluedoglover

    bluedoglover Top Dog

    Lying like shit.
     
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  7. Robertosilva

    Robertosilva CH Dog

    I believe the modern Irish Wolfhound is a recreation. The old Irish Wolfhound was said to be a very tough dog and being able to take on most beasts and best any dog, but who knows how much of this was true.

    There are some good reads on David Hancocks site. Not sure about the Irish Wolfhound.

    HANCOCK ON DOGS LINKS

    Conserving Our British Breeds

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_001_149/005.html

    Bring Back Our Bulldog

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_001_149/024.html

    White English Terrier

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_001_149/025.html

    Saluting TheStaffie

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_001_149/084.html

    Deforming The Bull Terrier

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_001_149/050.html

    The Gamekeepers Night Dog

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_001_149/051.html

    Dangers of Losing Breed type (none)

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_001_149/079.html

    Mastiffs and Molossers

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_001_149/082.html

    Bulldogs from the America’s

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_001_149/097.html

    In Praise of TheDogoArgentino

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_001_149/138.html

    Sporting Terriers Future

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_001_149/142.html

    Mastiffs Origins and History

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_150_170/169.html

    Rebuilding The Bull Terrier

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_171_239/178.html

    Function: The Only Pedigree for Dogs

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_171_239/185.html

    Bringing back the real Bulldog

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_171_239/189.html

    A shabby dog story – Dangerous Dog Act in the UK

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_171_239/190.html

    National English Terrier

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_171_239/198.html

    The World of The Terrier

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_171_239/219.html

    Breaking The Dangerous Dogs Law

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_171_239/229.html

    Bulldog Mastiffs

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_240_309/248_221.html

    Breeding Bullish Terriers

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_240_309/252.html

    What Is A Dangerous Dog

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_240_309/253.html

    The Arrival of the Terriers

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_240_309/261.html

    Fila Brasilero

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_240_309/280.html

    Tosa

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_240_309/281.html

    ResurectingThe Sporting Bulldog

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_240_309/307.html

    Early Terriers

    http://www.davidhancockondogs.com/archives/archive_240_309/308.html
     
  8. DogMan85

    DogMan85 Banned

    The Irish Wolfhound will have less heart than a Greyhound.
     
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  9. DogMan85

    DogMan85 Banned

    Has anyone seen Lightweight and Middleweight Tosa's? The real ones are a dog to be reckoned with.
     
  10. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Top Dog

    I was just asking a question and stating what I was told. I have know reason to lie and either did my grandfather he was not that type of person by any means. This would of taken place in the 1930's. I have zero knowledge of wolfhounds and have only seen a few that were pets.
     
  11. Dusty Road

    Dusty Road CH Dog

    Irish Wolfhounds are a show dog ,,,, reconstructed by some British General/ colonel ,,, using Great Danes , Scottish Deerhounds,,, they are not fast , they have joint problems , they don't live long , they would not be good as a mix,,,its hard to beat Pit bull /hound mixes ,,, or maybe Wheaten /hound mixes ...
     
  12. EBT

    EBT Big Dog

    On my first job in the bush, 30+ years ago, I boarded with a bloke who had, what he described as, a staghound/wolfhound cross which was his boar dog. He only had the one, and often used to team up with mates with other dogs when he went out, but sometimes went out by himself with his dog, as the pigs weren't that big in this part of the country. The dog was pretty quick, and could run down pigs pretty easily, but wasn't much of a holder (compared to the bull types) and would sometimes hesitate before he went in, unless with another dog. I remember he wasn't an old dog and seemed a bit stiff in the hips, and he was also a cowering type around people.

    I didn't get on much with the bloke I boarded with, and soon departed ways, but it was clear he had ruined his dog. He was the type of guy who didn't want people touching his dog or feeding it and he was always trying to dominate it. The dog was kept chained up in the back shed most of the time and when I first approached the animal, I ignored the owner and took him a scrap of food. The dog cowered, sniffed at my offerings, and let me pat him, but as soon as I turned my back, he lunged at me and it was only the chain the prevented him taking a chunk out of me. As soon as I turned around, he cowered back into his corner again. When he wasn't on the chain he was better, and we'd all go for a ride to the coast and he was OK to run around on the beach, but his owner treated him harshly and that was one of the main reasons I didn't like him (the owner). At least we had a steady supply of wild boar in the house.

    There's an Aussie staghound, which isn't a recognised breed and started to evolve with the first European settlers from Scottish deerhounds and greyhounds and was used originally to chase down kangaroos and emus. They were later crossed with wolfhounds to give them mouth for pig hunting, so there may be a bit of wolfhound in the final product.

    Here's a bit of info/history on the breed and some pix of deerhound/wolfhound crosses: http://www.boardogs.com/Boardogs_Staghounds.htm
     
  13. Lrs

    Lrs Big Dog

    . 3/4 grey yes mate.
     
  14. DogMan85

    DogMan85 Banned

    3/4 Bull and the 5/8 x 3/8 are monster dogs
     
  15. Lrs

    Lrs Big Dog

    Never seen one in the flesh but a great terrier mans dog I bet.
     
  16. DogMan85

    DogMan85 Banned

    We used to run 1/2 crosses and 3/4 crosses on the biggest game in the UK, you learn to appreciate the dogs when you're having to tackle the animals yourself. Some 1/2 crosses might lack that extra gear but they make up for it with drive. Some other crosses get there but are not willing to go that extra mile.
     
  17. Lrs

    Lrs Big Dog

    As long as they have enough speed to catch dinner mate.
     
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  18. bluedoglover

    bluedoglover Top Dog

    I looked it up. He was a 3xw
     
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  19. Robertosilva

    Robertosilva CH Dog

    Interesting, Do you have a source?
     
  20. bluedoglover

    bluedoglover Top Dog

    Country life magazine
     
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