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Peoples views on training a Pitbull for protection

Discussion in 'Sports & Activities' started by Pitbull2010, Nov 30, 2010.

  1. I have never had a game bred pit that had to be taught to protect its Master or its property. That is just my experience though..
     
  2. Me too, I always have to keep an eye on my boy, generally he's good with people although a little more trigger happy then my other pp dogs.

    ..but there must have been a few dogs that were HA but so good in the pit that it was over looked...
     
  3. my dogs are trained in shutzhund. both took to it rite away only problem is hard to train a dog from tested lines to not run @ the next dog over haha but its great their not too mean from it its like a game to em
     
  4. RedRiot

    RedRiot Pup

    Old as fuck post I know but wanted to add by 2 cents anyway. PP and Schutzhund are 2 different things, PP is based on aggression and defence drive, schutzhund is purely based on prey/toy drive with a huge emphasis on obedience. At no time does the dog ever feel threatened and at no time is the dog protecting itself nor do you teach it to. If the dog isn't obedient he will fail at any competition you try to enter him in. In PP as long as the dog is willing to bite and lets go on command you have a winner. I wouldn't train an APBT in PP but I would definitely train one in schutzhund
     
  5. Andre

    Andre Pup

    I rather use a Malinois or Mastiff for that kind of duty. But I dont mind people doing it and I would be open to it. It can be just a game for a dog, doesn't have to translate into aggression. I prefer it over having no job. Weight pull is better suited for a Saint Bernard and Treadmill comps are better for whippets and greyhounds. Even hunting is better suited for cross breeds and Dogo Argentinos. But regardless, it's better than just having a pit just to have it. Excercise > no exercise, Work > no work.
     
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  6. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Most people who do man work are responsible owners. Most people who do man work are not working game type dogs. The majority of people who have game dogs are not interested in dogs from personal protection lines.

    I do not think there is any correlation between man-biter and a dog being trained to bite a man. There are man-biters in the other breeds as well, even the dogs that are bred for personal protection/sport work.

    I'm all for a dog that does what he is was bred to do or what he was trained to do, regardless of breed, regardless of job.

    I'm sure a couple of hundred or so years ago when the old sheep herder broke out his smart phone and went to the forum while watching his Shepherds herd the flock, said, "Look at this dumb ass thinking this 'sheep dog' will actually bite someone on command, or find dope, or search for cadavers, or do police work. They were bred to herd sheep and that is all they are good for".

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  7. Forever-So REAL

    Forever-So REAL Quintuple Grand Champion Premium Member

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  8. stickler

    stickler Banned

    How many guys proved to be game that day ? :D
     
  9. ZeboGhost

    ZeboGhost Grand Champion

    disagreed because I know the back story. and the back story is they recently stole that dog and was abusing it. so of course its going to be distressed. sorry you cant handle that the American pitbull terrier is the best breed and can literally out perform the mastiffs and other working dogs at the things they do. the pitbull is very multi abled
     
  10. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    That was a handler mistake. Allowing a dog to see across and get that amped up is a double whammy. One he will do just about anything to go across. Secondly that is a shit load of energy he will most definitely need 50-60 minutes later.

    Most of the time it is the retard standing on two legs that jack shit up.

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  11. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    I thought very similarly Slim. As soon as I seen them taking all that time to get the collar off that dog and all that energy he is wasting in the mean time.
     
  12. I thought of it for my own dog, as unlike most pitbulls, he can be agressive towards strangers especially after dark (no worries, he wears a muzzle as I'm not an idiot :P ) So I thought maybe doing protection training would allow him as well as myself to have some guidelines on that, to direct and channel the energy in a responsible way, learn commands, learn his body language in a controlled situation, etc. Also to see for sure how serious my dog is, and so that I'll be more prepared *if* it's ever needed. It might be good for him also to see guarding as a job, and find his on/off switch with that.
     
  13. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Premium Member Premium Member

    I think the APBT is capable of many tasks. Attacking humans and guarding is not what they are. Not saying they cant. Use a breed that is bred for it. A human aggressive APBT is not a wanted trait and should never be. Get a doberman,American bulldog ec.
     
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  14. par71

    par71 Pup

    D97BA665-2FBC-4B57-90AE-32BEC82BB5A6.jpeg I did ring sport with my old boomer frisco male who passed. For those who know not being insulting ring sport is different than protection work. My boy would run at you from across the field and if you held the bite suit in front of you and threw it he would chase it, He wouldn’t hurt a person no equipment on no bite even if I wanted him to. Could have been him personally idk. I have worked with PD decoys etc he had no human aggression in him if you had a leash u could have owned him lol. He was a expectiion perhaps... but I’m a weirdo I’m almost 50 I spent 4-5 hrs training my dogs when I was off on Mon. D97BA665-2FBC-4B57-90AE-32BEC82BB5A6.jpeg
     
  15. Michele

    Michele CH Dog Super Moderator

    Nope.....they are not a guardian breed. Get a guardian breed if that's what you want the dog for.
     
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  16. par71

    par71 Pup

    read my post sport not protection he wouldn’t hurt a human soul.
     
  17. FrozenEli

    FrozenEli Premium Member Premium Member

    The way you made ring sport sound, it seems really pointless .
     
  18. par71

    par71 Pup

    Not pointless but most ring sport dogs won’t do a live bite. My dog above that I noted would but put a suit on fire blanks in the air he looks like he could be on cops, you may know this if you do not trying to be disrespectful but schutzhund was only developed to see if a GSD was worth breeding, I have a Dutch Shepard who is heavy bred on KNPV dogs they will bite. It’s not useless it’s hard work to train a dog at that level of OB I respect it but ring sport and civil training are night and day.
     
  19. par71

    par71 Pup

    I don’t even dream about my game dogs protecting me in a real life scenerio.
     
  20. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Me neither in what seems like a hundred years I have never owned but one dog that would bite a person. I gave him some of the medicine that prevents dog bites.

    Other than him every dog I have ever owned would load up and leave with any one who would be willing to pet them on the head.

    At times I wish they would provide a little self security but that has not been the case. LOL

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