Peoples views on training a Pitbull for protection

F.W.K. · Apr 16, 2021

GK1 said: ↑

dog is but one layer in a personal security system..and doesn’t think like human in terms of what behaviors constitute bad intentions. a dog can see a curious toddler as a threat to his space, or the mild mannered child abductor as a friend bearing gifts of bacon. discernment and decision to threaten to use or use force via dog attack, or Glock, HK etc., is solely the responsibility (and liability) of the handler.
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Walked once with one of my dogs was atacked by a few thugs and the always friendly dog took one down badly, good dog, the rest of the thugs took a run. Walked with two dogs, one a bull terriër one a pit, two drunks try to kick one, oh oh ... Good dogs,welcome on a stroll in the meanstreets. They have superb instincts, knowing wrong from right.

par71 · Apr 16, 2021

BloodHound said: ↑

par71, VERY nice DS! I love the Dutches. I have such a soft spot for them.
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Ty sir

par71 · Apr 16, 2021

GK1 said: ↑

A sport dog could transition to PPD based on the individual dog’s genetics and follow on training, but such dogs thru their foundation training in sports oftentimes have learned to only target fabric and not the man. Simply put, a bite suit/sleeve should be nothing more than protection from injury to the decoy. Whereas in sport, the suit is the target - and even a psychological comfort zone for the dog. Muzzle fighting before suit is a technique to help mitigate. This is a complex, controversial topic with many opinions, especially on the internet…let alone considering pit bulls for this training.

I don't necessarily believe a traditionally bred pit bull cannot be a stable and effective PPD - with the correct foundation training and handler leadership/bonding. I see value in a handy, 40-50 pound dog with outsized power and grit when compared to a working shepherd breed. The % of qualified prospects in this regard are lower due to generations of selective breeding for different traits however.

The other issue is most who breed traditional pit bulls, are not versed in what to look for in a ppd prospect. Just not their gig. jmo
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I agree most pit bulls don’t have the genetics to be ppd dogs the one I did who I have videos of ignoring gun fire passing his psa courage test wouldn’t hurt a human he is the dog in the photos above. My DS is a daughter of Tommy pegge she will bite but I’m blessed she is also social af.

par71 · Apr 16, 2021

GK1 said: ↑

dog is but one layer in a personal security system..and doesn’t think like human in terms of what behaviors constitute bad intentions. a dog can see a curious toddler as a threat to his space, or the mild I mannered child abductor as a friend bearing gifts of bacon. discernment and decision to threaten to use or use force via dog attack, or Glock, HK etc., is solely the responsibility (and liability) of the handler.
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I have a mal a ds and a Corso in the house if they make it past the first layer I have a beneli with OO defense rounds I’ve have a interesting life I need to sleep lolol

par71 · Apr 16, 2021

F.W.K. said: ↑

A good APBT is friendly to people but shal atack the one who aproach his owners with bad intentions. Never did manwork with them as they are bred for different purposes. Anyway they are capabele for many tasks as they are smart dogs if socialised and proper trained and raised. Great space you got there @par71 dogs looks good. Running one like that freely like yours should be an dissaster in many places, take care good luck
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Ty sir you take care as well. I love having land and working my dogs on it.

F.W.K. · Apr 16, 2021

I believe you enjoy it to the fullest ! Keep up the good work.

par71 · Apr 16, 2021

https://share.icloud.com/photos/0YlJwgsZw1a9b03iV0Ho53AdQ#Pueblo_West Yes sir ty

slim12 · Apr 16, 2021

I have never really had a problem with pit bulls doing bite work or man work. Mostly because the two groups seldom if ever breed to each other.

I had a friend who had a 3/4 Red Boy dog, with two CH brothers and a 2XW sister, but was used to influx drive and energy into his weight pulling Staffordshire Terriers.

One of the better man dogs I have ever seen (not tons of experience but quite a bit) was a 40lb in bred Snooty dog.

Both of these two dogs are the down from and their siblings are the foundation dogs of the dogs I have owned for what seems like forever.

With that said I would never go breed to one of those dogs even though I am a big fan of the pedigree. I feel like learned traits can be passed down just like inherited traits. I may be wrong but it is one of the chances I would not take.

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Dan G · Apr 17, 2021

I have a problem with certain people training these dogs in PP work, but not the breed. I've done it and been really happy with the results. I had one prove himself by preventing a burglary at my house. APBT's are smart, high drive, mentally strong, and extremely devoted to their people and task. With that said, you better know how to read these dogs. No different than having a gun on your hip, with great power comes great responsibility.

tomjones2 · Apr 17, 2021

ben brockton said: ↑

Glock17<pp dog every time
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G17 is the my second line of defense. Dogs are the first to notify and hopefully buy me some time to respond...

AbdullahSamer · Apr 20, 2021

Michele said: ↑

Mr. Blonde.......my favorite......
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Michele can you do the bugs bunny challenge and send me a picture

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