PETCO in trouble

I'm going to jump in here, my kids are 16 and 19, and I can tell you this, it took fighting with my in-laws, my neighbors, my ex-husband to raise my kids with the dicipline and structure I grew up with. I was part of a big family that traveled a lot, and we were expected to behave, first for our own protection and for the comfort of those in our environment. ABK is right, the winds of change has enabled a whole generation of children that know no boundries and accept no responsibilty for any of their actions - it is always some one elses fault. A kid gets a bad grade and it's the teachers fault, a kid sexually harrasses a female student (10 yrs old) on the school bus and the father says he is just being a "guy"...societys fault, and on and on. Now I see these same children as young adults and they cannot understand why the world does not "work" anymore. They drive drunk and they loose their license and go to jail...Mom and Dad, despite their money, cannot bail them out. These same kids are dropping out of college because the professors don't give a rats ass if they show up to class or not (they still get paid), these kids are now learning the lessons their folks should have taught them as small children, and now LIFE is giving them a large dose of what it's really like. Sad but true. My brother was bitten by a dog as a boy, the bite was pretty severe, his lesson from my father was "thats what you get when you tease a dog you don't know, I guess you will respect that dog from now on...won't you" and we all (us kids) learned a lesson that day. Not saying this is every ones style, there was no law suit, just a lesson that although they are animals, they have feelings too and all life needs to be respected. There was no PETCOs where I grew up but there needs to be a balance, responsible dog owners and responsible parenting. It can be done, I am from a family of 5, all 2 or less than 2 years apart, and we behaved. We flew all over the world, we looked out for one another and damn sure respected our parents. It is not a bad way......

 

lol, your dad sounds like my mom mydawgs!

I remember when I was about 5 y/o I was petting our cat. She decided she'd had enough petting & got up to leave. I didn't want her to leave, so as she walked off I grabbed her tail & held it. As a result she turned around & gave me a nasty scratch on the hand. As I screamed & cried, do you know what my mother's first response was? "That's what you get for pulling the cat's tail!"

In today's day in age if that happened, they'd blame the cat, sue the person they got the cat from & dump the cat off in a shelter!

Ahhhh, how times have changed ...

 

Ok, you are crackin me up, I remember pulling my cats tail, and my mother grabbing my braid (had very long hair) and pulling it until I cried. I asked her why she did that, she said "now you know how the cat feels when you pull her tail"......MEAN MOMMY lol

 

bwahahahahahaha!!! I remember calling my mom that! (mean mommy) But it was for our best in the end though. Bet you didn't pull any more cats' tails did you? I know I didn't!

 

Good Post!!!

 

So true.....the only ppl that are gaining is the pharmicutical company's....meds are the answer these day's, Who has time for parenting

 

You're right on there Simms. All that A.D.H.D. stuff sounds like B.U.L.L. to me. Where was ADHD when we were kids?? Where was it in generations before? Nowhere. But all of a sudden permissive parenting becomes vogue & shortly thereafter ADHD is an epidemic.

They should call it what it is. It's not ADHD. It's LOSD.
(Lack Of Spankings Disease) & the cure is not in the form of a pill, but in the form of an attentive parent w/ a strong spine, loving heart & a ready strap!

 

Whoa now. My step son had ADHD and I can surely tell you it WASNT from lack of spankings.. his dad was a no nonsense person. but this kid had excess energy galore, couldnt sit still for 3 seconds and mind wandered everywhere. When he lived with me my ex and I tried everything.. Set schedules, lots of sports and outdoor activiteis ( which he had a hard time concentrating) He didnt go to daycare (we worked opposite shifts for the longest time) and he went to the area's best schools.. but he couldnt sit still or concnetrate long enough which lead him to disrupt the class. He wasnt a bad kid, made friends well blah blah.. All the teachers kept telling us to put him on meds which we said heck no for the longest time. Finally we took him to the doctors and had him evaluated..
We put him on a low dosage of ADHD medicine and you know what? It was enough to take the edge off for him to sit still, pay attention and LEARN. And after a couple years he was able to get off it.. So all you who think this and that dont know .. And yes, it was around back then, too but they just didnt realize what it was.. they thought it was behavoiral problems and bad kids.
Even adults have ADD..which many adults never realized..

But dont tell me kids dont have ADHD.. I know from first hand experience and we tried all options before going the medicine route. Even diet change!

 

not everyone on this green earth has money to pay a babysitter everytime they need to go to the store! Who knows, maybe that child could have been standing next to their mother and the person with the Rottie walked by and the dog snapped! If that was the case, then who's to blame? Its still the dog handlers fault. A wandering child doesnt deserve to get bit by a dog no matter how "bad" their parents parenting skills are. Think about it..

Complain about parenting all you want.. Yet society has deemed spanking wrong and placed more value on a bad tempered dog than a child.

 

how about this...if you cannot find a sitter and you have to take your kid to the pet store....dont go to a pet store with roaming dogs and roaming kids???

 

Set aside the issue of parenting for a moment, folks that choose to own dogs automatically assume the responsibility of understanding dog behavior, those that don't have dogs decide they do not want that responsibility. Again a balanced combination of understanding of children and animals will do quite a bit towards preventing future incident.

 

TRUE........I AGREE.

 

Rocksteady: Forgive me should I seem harsh, but my stepson supposedly has ADHD & I think it's all a crock. Like I said before, where ADHD when we were growing up? Where was it when our parents & grandparents were growing up? Nowhere. Now suddenly every other kid has it? Yeah right.

I'm sure you did what you thought was right. And I'm sure meds help your stepson & other "ADHD" kids. But you can chemically create anything you want. If someone gave you the right chemical cocktail & they could have you naked as a jaybird, running about on all fours meowing like a cat!

As for not eveyone having the money for a sitter, guess what? That cost of sitters should have been figured in before you had the kid! And if it's too late & the kid is here, there is no reason whatsoever you can't keep the kid strapped in a stroller or under some type of parental control!

And as a side note the article said the mother lost track of her daughter, looked over & saw her petting the rott then she heard a scream. This kid wasn't just strolling by & the dog nabbed her! IMO this incident was the fault of both the parent and the dog's handler. The mother should have had her child where children belong - by her side & the dog's handler should not have brought a dog he didn't own into public & should have known enough of canine body language to read the dog's intentions.

If the kid was where she should have been (by her mother's side) it wouldn't have happened. If the dog was where he should have been (at home) it wouldn't have happened. It is not the fault of one or the other - it is the fault of both.

Iverson: Good point. Roaming kids + roaming dogs = bad news.

mydawgs. Great post!

 

No one said that the extra step that you took with your child is unessesary... However it seems to be that ppl are looking for that easy fix or the easy rout with their chilldren.

I'm sure that there are many that have heard or have used the term.....do as I say not as I do. As a parent you teach and nuture by example...you set the standard and the tone...Not the other way around,that is not a childs role in the home.

 

Hi, I've just been lurking for awhile reading up on the posts before I said anything. I'll be a proud owner of a Pit Bull in about 2 months.

I also was bitten on the face as a child of my uncle's dog. This dog was behind a fence and I was teasing it saying you can't get me. Well he got me right on the eyebrow. My lesson for the day and the rest of my life, never mess with dogs lol and I knew this dog.

As far as fault, it's the parent's fault and the dog handler's. Possibly the child which still falls back on the parent. As a parent of 3, there are times when my children will see a dog and try and run to it. There are times when I have had to snatch them back by the hood of their sweater, jacket, or whatever else they have on. Now I've explained it until I'm blue in the face that you don't go running up to no dog. But the excitement takes over and everything I've ever taught them goes out the door. At the same time if I go somewhere where I know this may happen, my child is right by my side, holding my hand. If I'm not holding her hand (the youngest) then she is "helping" me shop by handing me things off the shelf and carrying it.

Now for the dog handler, he should've had a watchful eye if he allowed someone to play with the dog. Better yet, he shouldn't have let the child play with the dog.

I don't think it was a mauling, but just a strong bite. You'd be amazed as to what teeth can tear thru. I tore thru the shoulder of my daughter's uncle as we were wrestling and I was losing and he wouldn't get off me, yes I fight unfair lol.

I guess I'll do a proper introduction of myself as soon as I find where on the board to place it and I'm done reading this part of the board, just a coouple more posts to go through.

 

This is a great example of responsible parenting!

BTW, welcome to the board Cnote!

 

Thank you!

 

First off I go to church every Sunday night. The Bible isn't going to teach a three year old how to sit still. I can't stay at home and let my dogs starve or my refrigerator go bare. I am a YOUNG mother who is trying to make it after a lot of hardships. My son is my first child and I'm VERY sure he is not the only child that will NOT walk obediantly by their parents side while shopping. I've seen tons of them. I try not to go out alone. But I must ask if ANYONE here has to put up with what I'm going through ANYONE???? ANYONE want to sit there while their life comes crashing down from every side, to the point where the little hole in the wall seems to big to even hide in. No need to re-train my child. He is a child and will remain a child not an obediant beaten puppy who can't even think for himself. I was allowed to explore and discover as long as I was in eye site. I do have a leash for my son where I'm going to crowded places because I have to go ALONE with my daughter and my son and I doubt I could find someone to watch them so I can run and get milk, dog food or something little. Parenting books preach so many different things it's like finding a new religion. Raising a child is not as easy as flipping a page and reading a paragraph. As far as making jokes that's all the "humor" I have to go on. I'm in college, finding a job, trying to make it on my own with two small kids and the bruises to prove what put me here exists. I have NEVER ONCE had CSS or CPS called on me NOT ONCE. My kids are in great health, get fed three square meals a day, are socialized on a regular basis and say please, thank you, your welcome and are quit intelligent. Iverson's you need to ask your parents again about your childhood saying they NEVER had a problem with you. Rolls eyes. No kid is a perfect angel sent from the heaven above to make me seem stupid because my kid wonders six feet away from me while I'm changing a dirty diaper or grocery shopping. ABK I had plenty of money to pay for a sitter when I was with my ex but I'd rather be alive and not have a sitter than fearing for my life and be able to have one. I'm not saying I let my kids run to the other side of the store while I'm looking like an idiot. My own mom lost me at my grandma's easter party when I was 3 months old. So nobody is perfect. Maybe they should ban people from bringing dogs in pet stores because there is always going to be kids there. I am trying my hardest to finish school and provide a life for my kids. If that makes me lazy well then I'm sorry that I'm even trying. Maybe you could do it better? Because when I ask my three year old to say his abcs or count to 15 or tell me his body parts I get the enjoyment of knowing that I taught him those things. Whether or not I can ever teach him to stay by my side or if he is going to give me a hard time about at least I tried. As I said before no mom, dad, child, dog, master, NOBODY is perfect. If you find somebody that is let me know, I'd like to meet them.

P.S. Anyone try pushing a stroller with a baby and holding a three year old's hand??? Cause what I got was a kid who slipped out of his coat that I was holding onto in frigid weather. You guys are quick to call someone an irresponsible owner/parent when you don't even know the situation in which I come from.

 

What does church have to do with this? I'm also a young mother, I'll be 26 this summer. My kids are 8, 3, and 2 months. I understand that kids won't walk by your side at all times, but if you're going into a store that you know there are animals in, and some may be lose, don't you think you need to hold his hand or at least MAKE him stay by your side. Or are you one of those parents that we all see in walmart where the kids rule the parents? My oldest, I can give her "the look" and she won't leave my side, plus she has gotten many a spanking for leaving my side in a store. My middle girl, sometimes she needs to be pinched to stay there. But I'd rather her get pinched and spanked than other things that can happen when she leaves my side, like getting bitten by a lose pet or even some pet on a leash she has ran up to, or how about getting snatched up by a psycho. Now how else do I get her to stand by side, I'll try anything I think will work, push the cart, the stoller, help mommy carry this, hand mommy that off the shelf. If he doesn't walk obiediantly by your side, what do you do to correct this?

 

I doubt Dillon will ever walk obediantly by my side. He RARELY leaves my eye site and if it happens I put him in the dangerous part of the cart. Where I live people are quick to call children services on you for spanking your child in public. So I do not do that. I have stood him in corners of stores which will make him scream to the top of his lungs. I hardly ever go to pet store because they are more expensive and to far away. My son does not do the look thing. I could give him a million looks and all I would get is a pout or a whine or a laugh. I have spanked him when he truly deserved it and he gets timed out and he gets things taken away from him. But I also have to be careful being physical with him as he has witnessed what his father has done to me and I do not want him to repeat the pattern. So I'm not totally oblivious I have seen worse kids and I have seen better. But every child is different and every parent raises their child different. Like I don't let people smoke, drink, or talk about doing drugs in front of my kids as I was at my aunts house today (without my kids) to pick up something and they were doing all of the above in front of my cousin's son. Dillon does push the cart, I will not let him carry things as he has tendencies to break, spill, or bite things when he wants to be bored and misbehave.

P.S. Someone referred to church as an obediance school, something about using the rod (physical punishment).