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Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by KSL, Dec 11, 2021.

  1. Pullingcovers

    Pullingcovers Big Dog

    Who is everybody? Do you like meeting up with strangers ? Would you risk your life your family your home to prove something to a Dick wad on here? A lot of people on here already no who is who we are all just pet owners here for historical purposes.
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  2. David Hunt

    David Hunt A thousand mile Journey begins with one step.

    As BB said there are 2 types of owners, those who take care of the hounds and those who don't. 20160811_134342.jpg
  3. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    "Proven" dogs is in a totally different category than pups or young dogs. Proven dogs are most likely going to go to a gambler or a puppy peddler so they are going to be willing to spend a lot more than a regular Joe on the street. The pup price discussion always cracks me up though. People still think that pups should be $500 in today's day LOL. Hilarious.
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  4. David Hunt

    David Hunt A thousand mile Journey begins with one step.

    How are you Ttezz? 1500 today is something close to 500. 20 years ago..
  5. Sleep

    Sleep Big Dog

    well said ...ima just start reading and keeping my words to myself cause u right I don't kno who's who on here ...and my family comes first try to take me awa.y and it's you before me any day...appreciate it pullingcovers...gots to be mo careful
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  6. gog123

    gog123 Top Dog

    Always found it bit strange some these breeds that come with a load of health issues fetch silly money. Yet a dog from two proven workers usually doesn’t go for nearly as much. Guess that’s because a lot of the owners/breeders are worlds apart. Some have a passion for money and others have a passion for the breed. Part of me always wishes those who put the time in though are rewarded with a bit of money as they deserve it type thing. Been given well bred dogs for free myself in the past. From people who ain’t exactly rolling in money. Would always return the favour or be willing to help them out in anyway I could. Think money shows someone’s character at times. Can’t knock someone who puts their morals before money.
  7. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    I think we all pretty much say the same thing but just say it differently. I could care less how much people get for their dogs. It is almost complaining about how you were offended or didn't like what was on Channel 11 on TV when there are 600+ channels to choose from. Dogs are pretty much no different. Change the channel and shop elsewhere.

    I think their popularity and people looking thru rose colored glasses has hurt the breed more than anything as it has opened up the door for profit. I know TG takes a bashing but his business model is beyond reproach. He inched the price up over time and each time there was always some guy running up the driveway with two handfuls of money. Others followed. He was not the first making money selling dogs but he is the closest to perfecting the craft.

    So when a guy goes there and buys a male and female with every intention of breeding them from 8 weeks old til the first cycle and the nuts drop.....and he gets just about what the source is getting then the guy that is putting in work sees the market and raises the price of his puppies.

    Once the price of puppies go up so then does the adolescents and the young dogs. From there a proven winner, and especially a proven producer will get astronomical.

    So every time puppy prices trend up or show a shift up, all the other dogs go up as well.

    And the only, and I repeat the only thing that will change that is when the guy stops running up the driveway with two handuls of money.

  8. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    Some pay what they deserve to pay, which can be expensive in the middle or cheap. If a man have proven himself as an legit proper and honest dogman over the years cheap and free wellbred dogs comes his way. Buyers beware see how a man runs his business and if his record really is as he told you. The biggest liars put out pups for top dollar to newbies, and yes to them,the buyer and soonoften to valuable to touch and a good excuse to produce some more of the same crap.
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  9. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    The buyer and soon breeder himself.
  10. David Hunt

    David Hunt A thousand mile Journey begins with one step.

    As a old man I have learned serval lessons the hard way. This has been o do with *The Price of life.* This is Never free. Never make a statement to any of the powers that be on your on Accord." Lawyer up. The powers that be are more crooked than the crook's. Sometimes the more people we know The worse off we are. If you want to find out who your friends are, loan them some money. Never loan more than what you can afford to lose. This will help ya. If I die with 2 true friends I have done well in this lifetime. People were made to be Loved, things were made to be used. 1 reason that the World is such a mess is because people are being used, and things are being loved.. This we have all heard T"difference between men and boys is the price of there toys." Good dogs are where you find them. You can't expect to breed good dogs out of a bunch of cures. But cream floats to the top. Let's stay with the traits that have our beloved Bulldogs what they are. Gamness, Temperament, Confirmation. This. Dex
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  11. David Hunt

    David Hunt A thousand mile Journey begins with one step.

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    Well said FWK. I agree with you completely. Theta why Good breeders would rather place his or hers Bulldogs with A good Man, Lady ect for a fraction of The Price. I'm not a Real breeder, yes I've a had some good Healthy litters over the last 35 plus years, If I'm not able to keep then all I would rather give them away to good folks who will raise them right, give them a fair chance, stay in touch with me. True example was a accidental breeding I had years ago with a pair of Colby hounds. John R Colby contacted me about a pair of pups. I told Jack I was honerd and humbled that he called me. I said I could give him a pair. He said Dex are you Rich ? Do you take good care of them? Ect. He sent me 500 a pup and paid shipping. I got the Heath certificates, and put them on a plane for a 1200 mile flight.
    when they arrived. Jack called me and said , David, the crates and pups are clean. The , ate good acting good ,Great job with Screenshot_2016-06-10-13-13-52-1.png Screenshot_2016-12-10-12-19-32.png these pups. I felt proud. and Blessed. I. have been treated very well over the years. I had people say Dex your just lucky. I believed we create or own luck by how we are living. p.s. There's an old saying in Drag Racing , "I would rather be lucky than Good "! I have learned, Champions or Winner's believe in there selfs , when no one else does.. View attachment 31001
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  12. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    If money is the main goal then morals goes quickly overboard. Putting them in the right hands ( which is not an easy task ) must be the main goal. There is no shame in charging an reasonable amount of money for a pup or grown dog if it is bred and done in all honesty. Raising bulldogs and breeding them right is a lot of hard work thus as said charging a reasonable amount for a pup grown dog is fair to the breeder. Working man's prices for honest owners. And occasionly free ones to trusted friends a/o partners in the fraternity can be a good thing if it can help to better the breed.
  13. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    Great post and oh how true them words are.
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  14. 80BOWTIE

    80BOWTIE Big Dog

    Shit homeboy on FB charging $3500 for some cur shit. I would say his name but I’m really tired of hearing it. Dogs are shit sales game is mean. Also the same dude noted Garner is now charging $3500 like he started a trend or something. I’m cheap would not pay $3500 for a damn puppy. That’s just me
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  15. San Siro

    San Siro Big Dog

    The guy i take 2 pups from asks me 300 euro each, 500 for 2. He keeps 3 out of 6. And he is from The Nietherlands, where they are known for being greedy. And not a shit cur breeding either. I saw them asking 1200 euro for a shitty showdogs puppies in that area too.
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