REAL HISTORY OF A LVING LEGEND (reprint)

Floyd Boudreaux' ace new dog "Blind Billy" wasnt alway's blind, he would simply lose his sight when he got hot. In his second match he lost his sight when he became overheated. OJ Thibdeaux' and his black & white dog were highly regaurded at 39 pounds. Floyd believed if Billy could get his mouth on him it wouldnt take long to detrmine a winner. Billy could bite as hard as any dog Floyd had ever seen, even harder than the best! He could disable one in a short order.
Just as Floyd figured Billy was able to get this Thibdeaux' dog several times. the longer they fought the more Billy punished the black and white dog. Billys nose was was a mess with the black and white trying to hang on for dear life. Billy had the black and white dog quitting, but his vision was loss and his nose was such a mess clotting itself closed from time to time. Floyd made a handle and Billy was counted out searching for the other dog. Although it was clear the black and white dog wanted no more, Billy lost the contest.
Perhaps he could have won several more matches afterwards, who knows. Thanks to the gifted forsight of Floyd Boudreaux', he bres Billy to a good gyp called Gypsy to produce Red, a full sister to ELIAS'PISTOL. Floyd bred to Red to produce Lena and then bred Billy to Lena to produce Scrub who was fifteen sixteenths inbred on the old blind dog Billy!
Lets back up a bit, S.P. Clavelle owned a spotted dog in them times that Gaboon Trahan used to breed his brood to. Gaboon used the dog one time and found him to just an average dog, but VERY GAME. Gaboon called him Rascal and had premission to breed to him anytime he wanted as he never owned the red and white spotted dog he calle Rascal.
Floyd Boudreaux' bought Rascal from Clavelle and Floyd was the only manto ever register Rascal, he did this through the U.K.C. several years after Floyd had rascal on the yard. Floyd bred Rascal to Lena (Scrubs momma) to produce Rascal Jr. who was the sire of many good dogs, one of which was Jerome Hernandez "NI##ER". NI##ER won five matches for Jerome and one of those wins was over Scrub. Scrub was matched at 40 pounds by Floyd and he lost to NI##ER in forty min. Don Mayfield liked Scrub and used him to go into JT Kitchens and a son of Tudors chamion Spike. Scrub won the contest sixty eight min..
Floyd Boudreaux' had the gifted forsight agian and bred Scrub to some good bitches and i am glad that he did. Scrub sired some great dogs and some phenomenal producers! Scrub was bred to his half sisterCandy to produce the famous Eli dog. Floyd also bred scrub to a good daughter of Rascal Jr. to roduce the great BOZE dog. BOZE was the most inbred DIBO dog of his time and was a great repersentation of his genetic pool. No DIBO dog could stay with BOZE.
One day a few great dogmen were at Floyds house after a covention in Lafayette LA held by Gaboon Trahan. Among the group was Bob wallace, Leo Kinard, Maurice Carver, Roland Butte and JD Elliott. Floyd got out BOZE and Boze jr. (a brother to Bullysons dam) and rolled the father and son together for a short time. leo said the roll was better than the matches they had just witnessed. JD said it was a blur, both dogs made a mess of eachother in a short order. Just the look in Maurices face! Maurice was speechless, and his mouth fell open, jaw dropped and his eyes buldged out. Later Maurice said that he had never seen a sight like that in his life!


PART ONE, TO BE CONTINUED...

 

Floyd owned Blind Billy and Rascal at the same time. Gypsy was a good daughter of Billy and when she came in heat, Floyd bred her as a repeat breeding back to her sire Billy. Floyd also bred Gypsy to Rascal a week later as Billy was old and Floyd wanted pups out the aging Gypsy. Well Gypsy had pups and ray charles could see that the pups were from Billy. Raymond Elias got one of the males and he named Pistol. Pistol was a very good dog that was only used once. He was matched over his true weight and won impessively anyway. I dont know how Maurice was able to breed to Pistol, or if he even did at all, but ADBA pedigrees show Pistol as the grandsire of Art's Missy, Davis grandchampion Boomerang and Clayton's Java(dam to grandchampion Art).
By the way, Don Devine got a bitch from Clayton that Don named Patty and registered her off Eli jr. and out of Java. When don got the bitch, Clayton said she was a sister to grandchampion Art, but he didnt say she was a littermate! She was indeed of Eli jr., but her dam was one quater staffordshire. A bitch off Bolio bred to a half staff bitch! But I wouldnt mind if my dogs had Pattys dam in thier make up because Pattys dam was a bitch named Ginger. The same Ginger that was the dam to champion Tuffy and his brother champion Dolemite. Both top dogs in the game, imagine that, champion dolemites damwas quater staff, it must have been some good staff blood! So Patty was half sister to grandchamion Art, champions Tuffy and Dolemite.
Raymond Elias' had several brothers, all of which had money and lived life to the fullest. They were a rowdy bunch and sometimes unruly. One storey is they couldnt agree on the dogs so they shot he Pistol dog and a bitch named Bealula. This way there was no more arguements about the dogs. The other storey that was told by Jerome Hernandez was half owner of Pistol and when he went to Raymonds to pick up Pistol to use him agian, raymond told him NO and Jerome
shot Pistol and said "nobody can have him now" Jerome did tell me that he indeed shoot the dog, so either way the Pistol died from a pistol.
Maurice used to tell people often that grandchampion Boomerang was a son of his Ironhead dog. He also said that Bullyson was off Ironhead, he did this once to the man that raised Bullyson in the same room as him. Just ask old Jerry Clemmons if i'm telling the facts or not. Anyways folks no matter what Maurices papers say, Ironhead was off Boudreax' Blind Billy.
Perhaps now you will understand why Bullyson crossedso well with Raymond Longs two sisters Baby and Tuffy as well as Art's Missy. also why Eli jr. roduced so well with the Java bitch, and why Ronnie Hydes Satchmo went so well with the Bloody Sunday bitch. Folks its what the Blind Billy dogs have been doing what its always done, BITING HARD AND WINNING!
While the world os searching for ELi dogs, the few who really understand are searching for BOZE dogs. It took a daughter of BOZE to create Bullyson.
When BOZE was eleven years old and wieghed eighteen pounds less than Bullyson, Floyd rolled the two together. Boze downed Bullyson and kept him on the bottem for ten minutes and had his way with him. when you consider how "good" Bullyson was and then consider how "great" BOZE was. ELI and ELI jr were great too, but none of them were in the same class as BOZE.
Floyd Boudreaux' bred BOZE to Penny who was by Young Rock out of Peggy. Penny was ood bitch from an all good litter! BOZE and Penny produced Spook(Sissy). Spooks whole litter killed eachother exept for her and another bitch pup. Floyd gave the other bitch up to maurice Carver to get him going. another friend of Floyds was given Spook to Jerry Clemmons a chickenman. When she came into heat he brougth her back to Floyds and bred her to Eli and she had four pups. All four were good and another all good litter bred by Floyd Boudreaux'. Bullyson, Eli jr., Brendy and Lady, a litter of dogs that changed the game itself.
A litter that changed the future and how we were to breed our dogs. Gameness alone wasnt good enough anymore. Eli dogs could and would take you out.
This is the begining of later is known as the Eli lime of dogs.
Clemmons sold Spooky to Doug Nightrider. Doug was like a kid with a new toy. He rolled Spook everyday untill she finally stopped, but she was a good as anyother BOZE daughter. BOZE was bred to Brendy to produce Wilkerson's Tina who was bred to Bullyson to produce champion Bullyson jr. and Benny Bob, the dog that dethroned his sire. BOZEs bitches produced very well . BOZE was a great dog, very fast, bit very hard and was really strong. Boze won his only one match in under five minutes! All totaled, BOZE stopped twentyseven dogs. All of the old timers tried to stop BOZE but they would go home disappointed, one after another.
Hell Roland Fontenot used to come by often and try, but he could never carry enough dogs to get the job done. BOZE would make short work of them.

PART TWO OF THREE...

 

Fred Williamson had a son of BOZE he also called PISTOL who was raised as a house dog and pet. Word was PISTOL was a cur and that Don Mayfield and George Gilman had a fortynine pounder that can prove it. Well after enough talk, Fred said "put up or shut up" and the match was made. Mayfield had Gilmans blessing and Mayfield shaped thier champion Gomer dog who was the winner of several high dollar contests and a littermate to another multi winner and champion 400. Both on wieght and at two hours and fortyfive minutes cleared the wall and jumed into the hands of Don's wife Phylis, now who was the cur?
A paid advertizement was published in the magizine "Pit Dog Report" shortly after the contest that stated:
BOUDREAUX' PISTOL was just an average BOUDREAUX' bulldog. The ad wasn't to peddle pups or for stud service, it was just simply a statement and it was true that PISTOL was just average of Floyds dogs.
Midnight Cowboy was a good champion and brother to champion Chivo who were son's of Bullyson out Longs Baby. Midnight cowboy was bred to Linus who was heavy BOZE and they produced Doyle Riddick's grandchampion Herman and from another all goos litter. Floyd sent doyle Liza to breed to Herman producing another good litter with one cold bitch. Maverick was in this litter and produced whole litters of quality dogs, ask anyone who owned one.
Eli did his share of producing as well. floyd bred him to a Corvino bred bitch named Glory B and produced Daniel's champion TOM. TOM was the sire of Barfield's champion Saloon who was the sire of Ken Allen's champion Butch, Saloon also sired a bitch named Stripper who Ken bred together to get Ken & the
A-Team's double grandchampion Tornado, a winner of ten matches. Of coarse eli was best known for producing Bullyson and Eli jr., but only for being bred more making them more popular.
NOW, Don Mayfield said that Floyd stole Eli from him by saying that all Cry Baby's pups died. friends, all of her pups did die. Don and Floyd were good friends and Floyd values his friends, believe me. Would you think that cry Babys pups were valuable enough for Floyd to betray a good friend. Then turn around and give them away! Floyd GAVE Eli away to his friend Junior Bush because floyd knew he could make more like him or better. To Floyd a dog was just a dog, but a friend holds a priceless value. Don Mayfield was just jealous that Floyd created Eli from his Blind Billy blood. Eli was stolen from Junior Bush after his third match ( the match was raided). There is no telling how many good dogs Eli produced, ever wonder why Eli blood crosses so well with grandchampion Zebo blood? Who knows?
These writings are all facts and not fiction, do your homework as I have done mine. Just a small part of some real history!
Signed- Sef another believer in Boudreaux' dogs

Hubbard's Bounce
....... .................................................Tudor's Dibo
Heinzl's Bambi
..................................................................................... Boudreaux' Blind Billy
(Dibos brother) Arizona Pete
.....................................................Tudor's Minnie
(Dibos dam) Hienzl's Bambi

 

If you believe that pedigree pn blind bily , then you haven't done your homework , the dates don't add up we had this on another thread which i went through the dobs of dibo along with the dob of blind billy as known to us all and has never been questioned ,along with the known age of dibo when he left howard heinzls yard and went to earl tudors yard were he began his life as a stud dog some time after wards , and not one person could provide any info to discredit my belief that blind billy was at best of very doubtfull breeding and at worst of unknown breeding , and that lead to eli also not being bred as Floyd would have us believe,but more than likely as Mayfield told us many years before ,and if anyone can make that any different with some facts not with what might have beens ,and if they still want to believe that billy was out of dibo , then all i can say is that blind billy and jesus chrsit both have something in common with each other, they are both immaculate conceptions .

 

OMG...where is key to help you ruin another thread...gtfoh!

 

ok grove or anyone else who believes that pedigree on billy, why don't you make a case for billy being bred as Floyd says, I mean it shouldn't be that hard now should it .

 

What up Cik how ya been buddy?

 

Damn what a way to hop on a thread of what I thought was an interesting read on a living legend...
I figure if your gonna disrespect someone like that you offer proof CIK and regaurdless if Blind Billy was off Dibo or vice versa, still a damn good read and insight to very quiet humble man from a enthusiest who was there, not here say like your post CIK...
Show us the proof or SHUT UP OR PUT UP!!!

 

I still say Floyd is alive and well. If u want to question the man take a lil trip to south LA and sit down with him. Until then there is no credibility to be had.


Shotgun
Arkansas

 

that is fine ..but no dogman is gonne tel wich ped he fake's and who he ducks lol
its already explained on this board
its the mayfield eli family ......
pistol stop going in circle's

 

more ped fakers are living ....and not one of them say a word
their quiet as church mousses lol

 

Hi elias the story as you say is very interesting , and one that im sure folks who have not seen it before will enjoy, but as i stated in my post, i had already made a very clear post as to why dont believe blind billy is out of dibo, and as a consequence eli is also not out of his supposed sire and dam either.The proof as you say is all in the details we all have to hand from the dobs on dibo and blind billy ,along with floyds own words as to how and when he got billy and of course the much noted story of how earl tudor first got dibo from heinzl and his appox age , and if you think you can make those ends meet up go ahead im sure it would make very interesting reading .By the way if trying to find the truth is disrespecting someone , then maybe we should all just shut our mouths to all indiscrestions in this life , which would be very wrong and cowardly. Floyd is a man who was and is a legend in the game ,but regardless of that fact and whether you or anyone else wants to accept the fact that it is very unliklely indeed that billy or eli are bred as papered by Floyd , and I know its hard for many to want to accept that this humble and fine man as you say would do such a thing , but if being a humble man was somehow the only proof one needs that you cant be a lair when it suits you, then this world would be a far less decitfull place than it actually is im affriad to say.I have nothing against you or Floyd , but as from your own words and post of the story of that dog and the subsequent famous line that it became ,i think it is of great importance to try and find the truth when the numbers don't add up ,and it is only a hunger for the truth as best as we can find it that makes me say these things, and as i said if you or anyone else can make my hearsay as you call it any less true than the actuall peds i talk of , then please do but im not sure how you can as unless you change the dobs on the dogs and the age of dibo when tudor got him from heinzl before he was ever bred, then as i said, the only way billy could be out of dibo is if he was an immaculate conception, and that of course would be something known as a miracle .

 

Once again show your proof, you don't have proof, you have a theory that you believe. That doesn't make it proof, proof is something that is solid. You speak of your proof as a DOB and the time that Dibo got to eels yard, well my question is, were you there the day Billy was born and were you there the day Earl got Dibo???? I mean time fades ones memory and I doubt it was until years later that people knew what a special dog both were and wanted to get some background on them. So just as easily as you say the dates don't add up they could be wrong. I mean I've seen my granddaddy and his friends argue about when such and such happened and they were all there at the same time but swear up and down that it was at a totally diff time than the other guys say. So when you talk about proof either you were there or you don't really know you just "think"


March isn't the only month for Madness!!

 

Hahaha.....there is also another one who's liable to spend his two cents worth of controversy too, grove lol..... (ad nauseam)

 

Hi Cajun, im not saying my proof , im saying that from the facts we do have as I said already on a previous thread before elias posted the story on this new thread, which brought it up again to which you were part of,i went into great detail trying to show that if Floyd was telling the truth , and don't forget this was also was part of how we were looking at the true breeding of eli was , then with what we know to be a fact in as far as anyone can tell, (because if your only answer to any question on this or any other well documented dog is to ask WELL WHERE YOU THERE ? THEN WE MIGHT AS WELL GET RID OF ALL registries and our own peds ,as very few folks are ever there to see a breeding and the birth and all the other factors to be 100% sure of it themselves) so going by the dobs and the known fact that dibo was at least 2 years old and some even say closer to 3 when earl got him from heinzl then how can dibo be blind billys sire ? Floyd own words have billy born in 1952 dibo was born march 1951 and did not leave heinzls yard until at least 2 years old, and as far as we know from the facts available to all of us dibo was not bred at heinzls yard , so all I asked on the old thread and all I ask on this one, is that one of you who have more facts than I have put forward to make a case for billy being bred as floyds say he is, would you please come forward and prove me wrong , not with hopefull stories about Floyd getting his dates wrong, but something that has some teeth to it , because otherwise all roads as far as billy is concerned lead to unknown breeding as his true ped.

 

On the other hand, you love to tell us about fake peds someone else has supposedly made and insignificant duck tales....I guess if you can't move on, you must still be stuck amongst the bullshit lol.

btw...have you any idea who's going to start a (new)Mayfield Nigger family topic?

 

there only mayfield topics here ......
look around

lol

 

As far as I'm aware, neither Tudor nor Heinzl made any public declaration to discredit Boudreaux yet, here you are, over 60yrs later.

 

what that means lol.........

 

I Agree 100% ! I read in the March 2011 issue of sporting dog journal international, Louis Colby on the cover 90 years with the APBT. When Louis was ask in his opinion who the best breeders were and i quote - Floyed B. & Howard H. I personally talked to John Colby yesterday afternoon about growing up with all these great Dog men. He told me that Floyed was at the colby yard alot. As were many others such as, James Crenshaw, Maurice Caver, ect. However these great breeders started there on line. The way there dogs were bred was there business. Im sure someone is going to jump funny as TDK would say, However That was one of the advantage's to buying or breeding with the colby family. It was up to you on weather or not you wanted to tell the public the truth in how your dogs were bred. Some Did, some didnt. There is alot of hidden colby in Floyed B. line.