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RIP Brian Bailey

Discussion in 'R.I.P.' started by bamaman, Apr 13, 2015.

  1. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    may he rest in peace!
     
  2. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    Yrs gone already
     
  3. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    Rest in Peace BB
     
  4. F.D.

    F.D. Top Dog

    RIP Brian Bailey. Did he still have dogs when he died? I know he had nice dogs.
     
  5. Mudville_Monsta

    Mudville_Monsta Top Dog

    R.I.P Brian Bailey

    Yes he still had dogs and wanted to have even more. Last I knew he had some issues in TX with having possession of dogs, so he was looking to move. He sold some and others went to people he trusted. Now that he has passed, calls have been made trying to keep the circle of people who have his blood connected and maybe preserve his work. He passed in Mississippi, probably after moving so he could have more dogs... R.I.P
     
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  6. stinkrock

    stinkrock Top Dog

    Rest in peace my friend.
     
  7. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    Rip BB. He was a good guy, I remember a few phone convos we had. Hope people will preserve his work.


    March isn't the only month for Madness!!
     
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  8. therealjudge

    therealjudge CH Dog

    What was the cause of death?
     
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  9. wardt

    wardt Banned

    RIP BAILEY ,Respect for All in The Breed.
     
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  10. ckBone

    ckBone Pup

    R.I.P. to the him as well.
     
  11. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    R.I.P MR.Bailey
     
  12. F.D.

    F.D. Top Dog

    Damn. It seems his work got cut short along with his life. I do hope the dogs get into the hands of good people.
     
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  13. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    I believe BBs work was accomplished when he purchased Bingo from the Carolina kitten Ms.Marlowe and introduced the midwest to the redboy dogs...
    Later WCC followed suit and did the same and purchased Bingos son Deacon from the Caroilina kitten and took him back to resinate in cheese country...
    Like others I got Deacon feaver and WCC introduced me to BB, in which a group of friends ended up with a group of BB dogs and he seemed fair in his dealings...
    BB told me that WCC wasnt even from the windy city and might have lived thier for a brief time, and BB was the man behind WCC, learning his character I am sure he stretched his stories a bit, but they were deffinatly entertaining...
    I remember BB saying he was from Chicago and he got in a bind and was gonna serve some time, WCC helped him with his dogs but didnt want to purchase Bingo for what BB was asking and WCC got the great Deacon instead of his sire for a fraction of the price...
    If the game has taught us anything is that with the high prices come shadey characters, and the music blew into the windy city and traded his little red corvette
    for Bingo and some others that were bred similar, while WCC kept the some to breed to Deacon...
    So if the storey is true, BB also prepeled Music City ahead and in return when he got out, he got out his lil red corvette and went to music city to retrieve some of his Bingo stock... BB took them to a friends in Texas and put a m.home at his place, in return he helped his friend aquire the Heavy D dog off Deacon...
    They bred the Bingo Redboy stock tight and had better success outcrossing it to alot of different blood looking for the right cross which seemed endless...
    I hadnt talked with him for over fifteen years and lost track of him...
    BB started a transporter buisness and did alright until one thing lead to another and he was back in trouble and I am not sure what happened in TX with him...
    My friend Dirty had a great dog bred down from Gene Thurmonds Midnight Cowboy blood, this bulldog had won on both coast in nc and ca in the hands of two navy vets that searved together...
    BB helped them bulldog like old times when they were stationed together and having the united states inbeteween them didnt seem so far...
    Well BB seen this dog go from ca to nc and win won, and back to ca for another... the dog was again hooked in nc and BB took almost three monthes transporting the dog causing a forfiet instead of a chance for a champioship... They tried to breed the dog multiple times and he was too crazy...
    When Dirty got him back to nc, he wasnt in the best of shape and all of sudden he wanted to breed to everything... The dogs gameness and ability ware as valued as his blood so became a stud dog... Dirty claimed BB to breeding to him on his three month adventure, Dirty said a couple years later that coast to coast black dogs surrounding BBs trail were dominating,hmmm... I dont know who stole whos thunder in this bulldog tale, but I do miss thier Tales...
    If it wasnt for Brian Bailey, alot of us would be bulldoging differently, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTRUBUTION AND REST IN PEACE MR.BAILEY...
     
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  14. lansford101

    lansford101 Banned

    Well said everyone Brian was a cool guy talking too him was always an adventure aloha B.B. till we meet again
     
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  15. therealjudge

    therealjudge CH Dog

    Anyone hear what the cause of death was?
     
  16. mccoypitbulls

    mccoypitbulls Underdog

    R.I.P.Another legend.. without this mans work, one of my dogs would not be here as well as many other folks dogs.
     
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  17. Brian Bailey was a piece of shit and deserved what he got. He put a lot of good people in prison trying to get out of trouble from his own dirty shit selling dope not only in Illinois but in Texas as well. Only decent dog he ever had was Inca a Boudreaux Carver bred female and a 4x winner that lost at 6 due to his incompetence as a conditioner into Rebel Kennels Blondie. Which was owned at the time by another snitching piece of shit Ricky Jones of Rebel kennels. Bingo and his progeny as a whole couldn’t bust a grape and weren’t fit to be classified in the same group as Eli JR, Art, Cowboy, ect.. and others that had Boudreaux blood in them. How do I know... cuz I’m one of the ones Brian put in prison for over a decade and was there when he first got Bingo and watched him quit
     
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  18. GrChHaunch

    GrChHaunch Big Dog

    I would like to find out the truth here. I am picking up a pup that is 25% Bailey. I am curious specifically about the dogs. Everything I have heard regarding Bingo's progeny is that they were great dogs especially the WCC dogs specifically Deacon.

    Furthermore, Bamaman has always been a straight shooter in my book

    On the other hand, why would Ken Ferguson lie about Ben Bailey? I believe him when he says Bailey sent him jail, a story that could be easily confirmed.

    Finally, I don't know who to trust. Dogmen today are 100% different from the men I met 25 years ago when I got my first dog.
     
  19. GrChHaunch

    GrChHaunch Big Dog

    Bingo produced Crypt and a number of other hard biters even though Red Boy dogs are not known for mouth. There is still a pretty significant influence of Bailey dogs here in Texas.
     
  20. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    He was friends with the guy that turned me onto the dogs as a kid via KM (Carolina Kitten).

    This is purely fictional and I am making it up as I go so please do not put any truth into it nor be offended by it.

    Bingo was down out of Fanny and Brandi Girl on the bottom. For whatever reason they produced dogs that could really bite. Some say because it was the Bullet version of the dogs except unlike the Bullet dogs they would scratch to a sign post.

    My friend's dad had Bingo's brother. That dog would swallow and did swallow any and everything that landed in his chain space. I bet he drank or got lubed with a 55 gallon drum of mineral oil over the course of his life. He had flat gums by the time he was 12 months. He spent all day scratching and popping the chains between him and the next dog. The littermate sister could not bust an egg. It has been said she had to have her dry food soaked first so she could chew it. Bingo fell somewhere in between.

    Over all the family is good. The problem is that BB (RIP, and not trying to speak ill of the dead) was known (like another famous breeder in the Carolinas) to order 8 or 9 sets of papers on a litter that was only 4 or 5 or 6 deep. Bingo was throwing 10-11 pups per litter in his last few years. (hint, hint). So not all those Bingo dogs were Bingo dogs, moreso when the Red Boy blood was heavier.

    The best dogs from that line come thru Cadillac II. Two versions. 1st look up The breeding to Chavis Mama and then the breedings to Cherry ( I think the years and birthdays get me at times) and you will the Jocko dog and you will the Jackson's Desperado dog. People who saw this Red Boy blood thru Bingo actually saw a more intense, just as game with even more back end finish than the orginal Red Boy Jocko dogs. It may even the Middleton bitch too, but again it has been awhile. These were basically RBJ 2.0.

    BB used these dogs as they were competitors and then used the heavier Red Boy female's papers. Because back then the popularity of red Boy dogs had grabbed traction and where the pure ones were starting to command some cash and BB liked cash.

    Another very popular Red Boy breeder saw these things and got three bitches from Vernon Jackson (heavily related to the Desparado/Snake family) yet never bred them. Then one day his spindly, hide as soft as mink, no mouth but deep game Red Boy dogs were durable and tough with a lot of mouth and a hide you could not poke a hole in with a 16 penny nail.

    The problem from there is they were a mix and match when the papers suggested they should be a lot more consistent. The hardest biting male dog I ever seen was maybe 7/8ths on the Deacon blood. So much so (and this is how karma works) the word got out and I was getting some serious offers from the fanciers of the Deacon family. I thought if I matched him once and won they would then have to double or triple their really generous offers. We got together and said let's bump him one more time and scratch him at ten and fifteen and twenty and we will long count him on 20. The idea was to not crush so we could bring him out a few months later and cash out. He laid down some serious work and on 10 he had completed all he had come to do. The odd thing was he did not look like the other heavy deacon dogs but he looked more like Jackson's Desperado who threw tremendous mouth but they were not very high percentage.

    So there is no real answer to the question. If it is back there, it is back there and I am sure it is several generations back and its impact would be minimal, minimal at best.

    Was he the nicest guy? Nope. Did he hang some papers? I did not see him sign them but sometimes the proof is in the pudding. The stories about his other non-dog illegal activity I don't know, could care less and can't trash him because someone else trashed him.

    I know of one bred down from that same family thru Cadillac II/Haymaker and he is gonna march in his parade in the heat of the August summer. He looks and acts like those RBJ 2.0 dogs from the late 80's/thru the 90's. The morning between two 95 degree days will tell from which tree limb he fell.

    Again, I made all this up because I enjoy telling lies and watching people respond to said lies.

    S
     
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