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Saw the results of a Pitbull attack on a man .

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by bamaman, Sep 7, 2021.

  1. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    I have never really been bitten badly. My friend's lab bit me in the hamstring and ass once and hit hurt like all get out.

    I have taken hits on a sleeve and suit from a number of breeds of varying sizes.

    The sheer power is unbelievable. The intensity is nothing short of amazing.

    I can't imagine all of that without a sleeve nor it being in a controlled enviroment.

    S
     
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  2. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    I've never been bit up like that and this is the first time I ever saw the aftermath of a attack.It left an impression on me for sure.This was just a all out assault.
     
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  3. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    All dogs got different personalities and abilities, but IMO any that turns on it's owner with bad intent should be considered a breach of contract and relationship is over.
     
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  4. reids skipper

    reids skipper CH Dog

    @oldguy …. Your attack sounded horrific mate …. Bad news when a dog you care for turns on his owner but in a sly way from behind you ! I owned a banjo / boyles dog from 10 months for about 5 years after … his first 10 months he was never really socialised because a) his owner was in bad health and b) to be totally honest i think he kept too many to have a one on one bond with any of them …the 5 years i had him he never showed me a bad sign although i later heard the rest of the litter turned out manbiters ! His litter brother i got told was like the one you mention and would grab his owner as soon as he turned his back on him ! I don’t care how good dogs like that are at work i personally would never keep a dog like that and it would be pts and i definitely would have never bred from a dog that had done stuff like that … back to my dog i let him go after the 5 years through health problems etc and got told he tried to bite his new owner and savaged another owners daughter ! I cant understand it as he had never showed me a bad sign ! .. he was a shy type of dog but i blamed his first 10 months on that as he’d never been on a lead or off the yard etc .. just out of interest mate are you any further to finding out where the dodgy genes came from in that dog to produce such a devil like that ?
     
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  5. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    He was best stifle dog I ever saw mate and used exact same traits on me, got me high up in thigh (just missed jewels) shook the shit out of me, trying to flip me over exact same as if he was working, managed to grab on to welded mesh on pen and stayed on my feet, think if he'd got me down or took hold higher up, then it would have been 6 feet under in a dirt submarine for me haha!

    The dogs pedigree was one of them Midland mysteries mate, maybe quietest dog I ever owned, absolutely zero personality, but what a stifle dog:-O

    When I bought the Spider female from old Lonzo Pratt, he told me "you won't need to worry over anyone stealing your dogs." Spider would allow you to enter her chain space, tail wagging and sweet as baby, she just wouldn't let you leave again haha! Her behaviour was well understood, it was written in the contract, Spider was a talented and loving little female, just don't enter her kennel space and attempt to leave or she'd nail you.
    The dog that attacked me showed nothing that day, but as @FrozenEli already stated, there was signs that I never picked up on that maybe I would have if I had more experience, or maybe it wouldn't have mattered, I really don't know?

    I understand what you said about owning dog for 5 years without incident, then trying to bite his new owner.. The dog that attacked me was around 2 years old when we purchased him from another kennel and within 6 months he beat the living crap out of me.. I think I've said it before with the Reid dogs and crosses, they can't just be traded like treadmills and expected to adapt, IMO them dogs can't handle that type of situation.. A Reid dog will create a strong bond with it's owner and they'll go far and beyond call of duty for their owner because of that bond, but if you sell or trade him to someone else, then I believe that dog (that line) suffers separation anxiety and never the same again, that's my opinion on the Reid dogs I saw, and only exception to that rule that I can remember was Hell's Jock's CH Bash.. Anyway don't want to hijack the thread by talking Reid dogs again, it just got me thinking that's all:-B
     
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  6. reids skipper

    reids skipper CH Dog

    Interesting thought about seperation anxiety mate … i never knew that … it makes perfect sense when you think about it ! As i said thedog i had i could take his feed off him etc no problems … he used to take his feed bowl in his kennel afterwards. He was even ok with my mate who looked after him one time when i went away … he was abit nervous getting it out he said though lol … i defo think your right though some dogs just dont settle with been moved on and for that I have to take for the blame for !
     
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  7. reids skipper

    reids skipper CH Dog

    The dog you talk of oldguy …was he ok with his previous owner mate ?
     
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  8. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    No mate, he had a nip at his original owner the day we picked him up.. I can hear @FrozenEli in back of my mind now saying... There's always signs haha!
     
  9. reids skipper

    reids skipper CH Dog

    Wonder if thats why billy and jacko ended up like they were off been passed about ?? Or were they showing signs early on ?
     
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  10. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    I have been more than likely on the brink a few times dealing with dogs that had bad habits.

    I was you and pretty much stupid, but we saw a dog once and I would rank him right up there at the top. I would go as far as to say the best dog I ever saw over 50lbs. At 52 he looked like 62 and had the athleticism of a 32-42 dog.

    Getting him on and off the chain was dangerous. He did not like to be handled. Once off the chain and on a lead he was fine. Once working he was fine. He just did not like being hands on restrained.

    I was told if you can get him off the chain you can have him.

    Back to the 2nd line. Young and pretty much stupid. I had to 'mug' him on and off the chain. He did well for me and hindsight I wish I had bred him.

    But once my son was old enough to be around the dogs there were new rules put into place. When kids are factored in I could only be so young and only so stupid. If that makes sense.

    S
     
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  11. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    I don't know about Jacko and Billy, but it's worth considering. Forgot to mention my old pal tried to buy another litter brother of dog that attacked me, and the dog that attacked him, the fella dropped dog off in yard, just to let it get used to the place, my old pal went out to meet it with some tit bits to try get socialised and dog went straight for him, he had to lock himself in conservatory until the fella came back to pick his dog up.. Like I said before mate.. Bad genetics!
     
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  12. reids skipper

    reids skipper CH Dog

    Maybe something from the sires side ? As much as i wanted to believe his breeding i always thought it too good to be true
     
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  13. FrozenEli

    FrozenEli Top Dog

    I been bit 3 times from 3 separate dogs, 2 being pit bulls. All 3 times alcohol was involved.... lesson learned, my own stupidity and carelessness. Only dealt with one true man eater of the 100 or so I've cared for, he went nighty night!
     
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  14. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    Thanks for the history and insight Slim, good to hear the nuts n' bolts problems that people go through who rear dogs responsibly, always something new to learn there.. I cringe sometimes, have to switch from train of thought when I remember the dogs I had around my kids, lucky it was only me that got bit.. too many are unaware of power of these dogs, taking risks and unaware of potential consequences.
     
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  15. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    Manbiters are a non go. Study the breed back to were it started and find out were those dogs ended. Think like a dog and act like a dog and you'll be fine.
     
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  16. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    I took some chances early on, especially if it was a dog that was high on.

    I only one that all came at me but I had a number that were nippers when handled, sort of like, "Let me GO". I gave those a pass.

    My son came along and he was in charge of "puppy patrol" for the longest. At some point he aged to where he was interested in what was down behind the barn in that fenced in area. From that point there were a new set of rules.

    Any time the thought crossed my mind the dog had to go. I gave them away or traded them or placed them or whatever it took to get them away from here. Seen a few that I was glad I didn't waste any more time and seen a few that I wished I had thought differently. End of the day I never got bit and my son never got bit so the route I chose worked for the best.

    Like I said, I am not sure a grown man could do anything with a dog intent on hurting him, most of the time it ends when the dog decides it ends, or so those are the stories I hear.

    I had Filas and I had one that I am sure if you kicked in my door I would find you where she decided you had had enough.

    I try to make that a point anytime a new guy wants his first bulldog.

    S
     
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  17. FrozenEli

    FrozenEli Top Dog

    Any thought like that involving my child or anyone's else's the dog's head would have been blown out of it's barrel! No risk involved, there are far to many great animals out there. I always wanted a Fila or a Tosa!
     
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  18. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    However the sire was bred is a midlands mystery, definitely too good to be true and wasn't only time the breeder got stung over promise of working Reid blood., but fact is the breeding produced a winner for a great dogman, I already stated the dog that attacked me was without doubt best stifle dog I ever seen, but he couldn't be conditioned because he'd turn on you at any moment, his brother was low standard and the sister (according to viking kennels) was a cur, that's about all I know on them mate.
     
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  19. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    I don't have an argument to make or defend the position I took with a number of dogs.

    I grew up on a yard where the only thing that mattered was a winning dog.

    With that as a mind set things are different than the average owner.

    S



     
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  20. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    I think keeping bulldogs is an extreme sport anyway and how far you're willing to push in pursuit of your goal is personal choice.. I owned a talented 2xw male that only just tolerated me, he'd run a mill for 20 mins then just stop, he'd chase a flirt for 10 mins until it bored him, he once ran straight into a rat warren in a farmers field, grabbed the biggest rat I ever seen and necked it, I'm screaming at him to spit the thing out (fat chance) he looked at me with pure defiance with rat tail still hanging out side of his mouth and swallowed it, given what I knew about nutrition back then, it was probably best feed he had in years. A number of times that dog let me know if I didn't back off with the strict regime, I was getting bit.

    Don't think I really ever owned that dog, more had a mutual understanding with him and if I was willing to behave and keep the partnership reasonable, then he might do as requested, maybe even make us the men of the moment.. What I mean is he tolerated me and I tolerated him, it was mutual understanding and could never have worked out if it was anything other than that...
    Photo below, Clever Charlie (2xw) two weeks before his win over Champion Klogger
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