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Seperate Strains

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by doglady, Mar 21, 2008.

  1. doglady

    doglady Pup

    If a breeder maintains some of the most respected bloodlines but also has a completely seperate line of blue dogs, would that affect your opinion of the breeder?
     
  2. miakoda

    miakoda GRCH Dog

    I would wonder more as to why a "respected" and "knowledgable" owner/breeder would be breeding dogs strictly for their color. IMO, I wouldn't touch their dogs b/c there is one reason someone breeds for color: easy money.

    And honestly I might wonder what their true intentions are for maintaining these other dogs with well-known bloodlines. Does this person actually know and have a passion for the dogs from these lines and actually use them/show them? Or do they just have them again for a marketing ploy?
     
  3. sapitbulls

    sapitbulls Guest

    No i would not buy a dog from a breeder like that ever.
     
  4. frenchie1936

    frenchie1936 Guest

    some people are very pretentious and like to pretend they are the only true fanciers since they don't own blues or bullies. SEVERAL of my good friends have excellent fast lane bulldogs and have a couple bullies on the side. open the book before you decide it isn't worth buying. and just because someone owns bullies doesn't not mean they breed for color or what have you. don't get me wrong, you'll never see a bully anywhere near my yard. but just because someone doesn't have just game dogs doesn't make them any less of a responsible person. my only qualm is that some bully owners call their dogs American Pit Bull Terriers. tsk tsk......
     
  5. Titch_Pitbull

    Titch_Pitbull Top Dog

    good post frenchie. Just because you like bullies and bulldogs doesnt mean your bulldogs are worthless !
     
  6. doglady

    doglady Pup

    What if the breeder says they maintain the seperate line of blues for a family member, and they themselves are dedicated to the game bred dog but list them all on their site and sell pups from both strains? If the blues are bred for conformation(not "bully") and temprement(but other traits are of course lost due to heavy Am. Staff blood), would you still shy away from their game bred strain?
     
  7. MinorThreat

    MinorThreat CH Dog

    they can sell blue dogs for more money and lol at a dogman keeping blue things on their yard, yeah right
     
  8. misterdogman

    misterdogman CH Dog

    Sorry but I absolutely disagree with this, I agree more with Mia especially if this person has real deal dogs they would know the blues are junk and wouldnt want them and DEFINITELY wouldnt breed them, actually having this person ask this question makes me question the quality of their supposed real deal stuff. If you had both you would choose the real one in my mind so maybe this person should re evaluate their whole yard and get rid of all their dogs.
    APBT lovers want gamebred dogs.
    Blue dog lovers want a pet to show off.
    To me you cant live in both worlds and respect the original and still breed the garbage someone created from the original and not feel bad about it. This person shouldnt be breeing ANYTHING anyway because there is enough damn dogs out there and I know there is a more qualified dog out there that deserves to be bred before that Blue garbage.
     
  9. miakoda

    miakoda GRCH Dog

    Having a bully or two as a family pet is one thing. But to cash in on the blue bully market just because is something else. And it's actions like that that are detrimental to our dogs!

    I had a blue brindle 'pit bull' for 2 years (he's now at a great new home in New Jersey as of this past December). He was a great dog and a great pet. But never in a million years would I have bred him to cash in on a market that is aiding in the destruction of my APBTs.

    And there are many people out there who own APBTs from good bloodlines not because they actually love the breed or the dogs themselves, but rather because they love the reputation and the status their dogs bring to them.

    So that's why I said what I did.
     
  10. Chef-Kergin

    Chef-Kergin Guest

    how, in good conscience, could someone do that?

    you're either in it for the breed, or in it for the money. i don't think you can't flip it any other way.

    i know "of" some folks who do this.....they had/have "gamebred" apbts for 10+ years. from what i know, they produced some fine animals, had some standards to what they were working for, etc. etc.

    then come to find out, they also breed and sell blue bully dogs.

    kind of makes you wonder......

    i've heard the arguements of "you have one to two litters of blue dogs a year, and it pays for all your feeds, vet visits, etc for the whole yard!"

    i say bullshit.

    that makes you a peddler like any other p.o.s. trying to cash in on the apbt, or any mix/mutation there-of. you loose all cool points imo, and i don't know how seriously i could take one's word if they practiced such things. you'd probably see adds for their apbts and bullies on sites like petfinder, hoobly, etc.

    i'm no breeder, i don't ever plan on breeding dogs. there's ppl that've been doing that with success far longer than i've been alive who i'll leave that up to.

    so take my $0.02 for what you will.
     
  11. miakoda

    miakoda GRCH Dog

    And I respond with "Get a J-O-B." or even get a 2nd job.
     
  12. Titch_Pitbull

    Titch_Pitbull Top Dog

    So lets just say some-one breeds blues for lets say weight pull he breeds his dogs to make fine weight pull dogs..he doesnt sell any of the pups..but heck there still blue. does this still make them an asshole cashing in on the market :S.

    Its funny how people that like blue dogs are just init for money and theres no other reason at all why someone would want to raise these dogs.
     
  13. Chef-Kergin

    Chef-Kergin Guest

    i heard that.
     
  14. Big Game

    Big Game CH Dog

    I know of people that breed real deal bulldogs. Totaly breed to standerd. These people also breed a line of larger but not Bully pulldogs. There pulldogs are only tested and proven on the pull track. Only sold to pull homes. Thay never cross there two lines together. Both lines are worked in there own way and thay are not Cashing In on any fad. I myself belive in having a dual purpuse Gamebreed dog. I see no reason to breed a seprate line of Pull dogs. Gamedogs do just fine on the pull track. However, I see no harm in what thay are doing as long as the two lines are kept seperate and the pull dogs are sold as just that pulldogs. Jmo Big Game
     
  15. Chef-Kergin

    Chef-Kergin Guest

    when you hear the excuse that they're breeding them to help with maintenance funds for the yard when asked why they breed bulldogs and bullies, they're cashing in on the fad. no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

    everyone's entitled to their own cup of tea. i'm not bashing anyone who likes any breed of dog, or mixed mutts for that matter.

    what chaps my ass is when they do it SOLELY for monetary gain, and try to ride the coattails of something they're producing is not.

    again, not everyone does this, but i'm sure more than one do :S

    agreed.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Mar 22, 2008
  16. Titch_Pitbull

    Titch_Pitbull Top Dog

    when you hear the excuse that they're breeding them to help with maintenance funds for the yard when asked why they breed bulldogs and bullies, they're cashing in on the fad. no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

    ==

    and what if they DONT sell pups to the general public? wouldnt that mean a much higher yard feed (due to how these dogs are fat hippos that eat mountians of food :) ).
     
  17. Pipbull

    Pipbull Top Dog

    Is that ever the case?
     
  18. bulldog426

    bulldog426 Big Dog

    i know a couple dogmen that have a blue or two, and i've also seen some blues that wern't cur. not my cup of tea, eventually i want to get a well bred blue, and also want a bull terrier, but i want to keep my gamebreds tight gamebred, and just have a blue and bull terrier for the hell of it.
     
  19. misterdogman

    misterdogman CH Dog

    Why would you do that if you got tight game dogs anyway?
     
  20. I don't mind people owning bully dogs as long as they don't call them an APBT
     
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