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(the legend) boudreaux' eli (2xw)

Discussion in 'Photography, Artwork & Videos' started by stonehousekennel, Aug 26, 2012.

  1. [video=youtube;fq8K4y8CyvE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq8K4y8CyvE&feature=player_embedded"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq8K4y8CyvE&feature=player_embedded[/video]
     
  2. nwo

    nwo Banned

    [​IMG] Re: history in the making floyds EIi bloodine

    Well if anyone really believes that either eli or blind billy and that whole family of floyds is bred like floyd shows them , then they would probably believe that money grows on trees.The fact is that the crybaby story is true , and many dogmen dont believe blind billy was bred as he shows , and infact floyd himself in conflicting magazine articles has told diffrent versions of how they got the dog.Also maverick was
    around 6 yrs old or at least an older dog when floyd got him from norman kemmer ,
    who was close to don mayfield and kept dogs for don and maveroick was one of those dogs , and infact mavercik was going to be sold to an englishman who had already bought many dogs from don in the late 78 and into the80s , and he was supposed to buy maverick ,but when he arrived to buy the dog , he had been sold to floyd by kemmer , and surprise surprise all of a sudden his ped showed his breeding to be other than mayfield bred once floyd got him.Is floyd a legend in the sport , yes absolutely , would i trust his peds from those criticall years (blind billy /eli/maverick) absolutely not , and although the dog is and should be the most important factor in deciding many things , but if you cant trust the ped or you know its false , how can you breed a family around that starting point , and if you look today at the carver family , which as we know carver put out many false peds , and that family today is not representative of what it was in the late 60s and 70s,as people bred that family according to the peds supplied from carver and outcrossed them ,without knowing as they thought they were inbreeding or linebreeding based on the peds, and even before caver died , very few had a pure family of bred carver dogs, but the peds showed they did . ​


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  3. preme

    preme CH Dog

    Well thank god fb got maverick and bred him to his bitches like did so maverick is not out of herman well wats his mayfield ped pure nigger dog???

    I
    Love the maverick ripper breeding
     
  4. nwo

    nwo Banned

  5. preme

    preme CH Dog

    Thanks for the post I thought i seen that before well if it's true Eli and them is from don s stock I see why fb would want maverick . Another thing maverick was listed as a ch yrs ago wat happen to his title was he brood or did he win a few ?
     
  6. Boze

    Boze Top Dog

    tha fact is no the crybaby story is false and mayfield was a nut and a liar in his old age if you have the american gamedog times there are several articles that explain quite well the true breeding of eli and it is a s stated
     
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  7. whiteboyposse

    whiteboyposse Banned

    shouldnt be calling dead dogmen liars.no respect.i believe don an so do thousands.just because he smoked a little pot dont make him a liar.floyd all of a sudden has black dogs on his yard.time an place an age of all the dogs match.they all hung papers ,but floyd come on people.floyds one lucky guy.never did a day in jail.sold game dogs all his life.use to fight em back when it was legal only.this guy floyd stinks.it all comes out in the wash don mayfield.one day maybe on his death bed,he,ll tell the truth.or the hounds of hell will be coming for him,game as hell.
     
  8. preme

    preme CH Dog

    If your dead and a lair that's wat the fuck you are Floyd did get busted where the hell you benn last few yrs they killed huminacs all the mans dogs you think none of them dudes told a lie thn you crazy
     
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  9. nwo

    nwo Banned

    Well boze im sure with a nick like that your a floyd man , like we all know he was a legend in the game , but the only story denying the true breeding of crybaby comes from floyd himself , and even if you leave dons version out , many dogmen who were close to floyd will tell you that they knew eli was out of crybaby.Now floyd also had 2 versions of how blind billy came to be in his hands , and that was another dog that few of his fellow dogmen believed that blind billy was bred that way , and as for mavercik , well he had won 4 or more matches from what is told , and floyd got him from kemmer so the englishman never got his mayfield bred dog ,but he had many back home , but it would be nice if one day floyd and others like indian sonny came out and told the truth about this and other dogs like pit general ,but if your the kind of man who would fake the peds of your dogs and sell them or take credit for thier success when their from another mans understanding , then i think we will all be a long time dead waitng for men like that to grow a conscience and come clean.
     
  10. Boze

    Boze Top Dog

    shut the hell up that was all don ever did was talk about ppl after they died and the millmaker called his ass out done was a good conditioner and that was it he won some and that was with other peoples dogs as a breeder he sucked plain and simple his dogs were a joke all that pure family bullshit give me a break the man was a crackpot and a spot picker period, and there were plenty of black dogs back then like i said do some research and find the articles in the american gamedog times that show how much of a lliar and cheaqt mayfield was, and proves his lies were indeed lies about floyd
     
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  11. Boze

    Boze Top Dog

    yes i like eli dogs but that does not change the fact don was and will be the only one to back that story up show me one more dogman that ever said that other than don and people don supposedly talked to,
     
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  12. nwo

    nwo Banned

    Well boze as for don picking his spots , well he won 104 mathces , thats some spot picking , and beating dogs like bullyson jr etc etc .As fordon nort being a breeder , well he was about the most knowledgeable breeder of his time , and his yard was blood he used to great effect (heavy nigger ) and as for only don saying crybaby and langhams cotton was the sire and damm to eli , well if you do your research in the am times you will read in sonny sykes interview he also says that he dint know how eli was bred , but that floyd never had no black dogs and the only one he knew of was crybaby , he also talks about blind billy , and that he heard the rumours about him also.JR busch was offered eli as a pup ,and two years later when ei was matched , they told mayfield that was from crybaby (not that don needed anyone to tell him eli was from crybaby,) but practically anyone who was a dogman in those days knew that floyd had fucked mayfield over period.Now as for articles in magazines that show don to bea liar , well if you seen them , post them , as mayfield was manyn things , but if he sold you a dog , the ped was true whether the dog was a good one or a cur , the peds were true.Its fuuny guys like you say oh don was a dope head in his later years , well yes he smoked pot , and he was far from a dopehead, and when he told about eli , that was back in the dyas when the dogs were born , and he wasnt a dopehead then boze.You know i never once heard anyone ,even dons enemies say that don lied about how a dog was bred or sold them a papered dog .The only time he left a doubt over a pedigree ,was when he sold hank to vernon jackson , and told him that he would sell him the dog if he would not breed to him unless he knew about it , or some such deal.Of course as with many dogmen vernon did what he wanted and bred the dog , and later asked don how hre was bred , and don told him something but not the exact breeding , as vernon had not kept to thier deal.Now you would think that if don was such a liar and dopehead , and that his stories about eli /or mavercik and other dogs in the game were al lies , and that he was as bad as theese other dogmen in faking peds , that there would be a qeue of of dogmen lining up to say the same about mayfield , but that has never happened , and you know why? cos they cant say that about mayfield , otherwise floyd and others would have jumped all over him accusing him of papering others dogs as his own like they did .Ask yourself a question, don never bred to tombstone eventhough he was pretty sure that maloney had him papered up wrong and that the true breeding was toot and baby , but becasue he could never 100% know for sure , he sold him.That right there shows you how important it was for him to know the true breedings of dogs being bred into his family of dogs , and shows his attention to his family of dogs .By the way your comments about the millmaker and don spotpicking are really laughable , and i wait for the list of his 104 mathces and the 85 plus wins and the spots picked , as you seem to have that list, although i would have to ask you if you can make a statement like that are you sure its not you that are smoking a bit too much weed ?Now please reply with a little more than your hearsay , i want the artciles mentioned the spots picked ok?
     
  13. gh32

    gh32 Premium Member Premium Member

    Whether a guy is dead or alive has no bearing on my opinion of him.I don't respect a guy just cause he's dead.You're right,smoking pot don't make you a liar,telling lies does.Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of Don Mayfield,Floyd or anyone else I guess.You want to talk no respect,how about saying Floyd stinks and talking about never doing no time.He's probably made a bigger impact in these dogs than 99.9% of people ever will.Don't you think the man got fucked over pretty good when he was raided.Don Mayfield and Floyd Boudreaux knows the story,we don't and I have no desire to speculate on it. I know a guy who personally knew both men ,that i trust his opinion on most things,and he speaks alot higher of Floyd than Don as a person.He will admit Don was a good conditioner and dogfighter,but didn't particularly care for him. But like I said,I don't really care and at this point is all water under the bridge.Everybody is free to think what they want but it is what it is at this point.
     
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  14. Ya right !!! Your straight lying or spreading disinfo about Maverick. I believe the Cry baby story like Mayfield said I have eyes but not the Maverick info you put here.

    I have a picture of one of Bernardo's Maverick dogs I saved it out of a pedigree database because he looked so much like Reddicks Herman who I really like.Tell me this ain't a Herman dog.
    <a href="http://s736.photobucket.com/albums/xx5/littlejohn09_photo/?action=view&amp;current=300107.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/xx5/littlejohn09_photo/300107.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

    I also personally had this dog in my hands and he is a good one off of Maverick and I can tell you this dog does not have any Mayfield's Nigger or Sunshine in him. The Ch Segal dog off Maverick and Noname
    <a href="http://s736.photobucket.com/albums/xx5/littlejohn09_photo/?action=view&amp;current=segal.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/xx5/littlejohn09_photo/segal.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

    New World Order I think your sreading disinfo about Maverick.
     
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  15. Here are the two pictures this bored is a pain in the ass with pictures.
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  16. NGK

    NGK Top Dog

    If Blind Billy was bred like his ped states then there were plenty black dogs behind him so the Eli dog being black can be explained just like that... Simple sells.

    As for Maverick I showed Don a photo of Maverick stuck to an Eli bred red bitch (don't remember her name) and asked him what he thought. He said that the red bitch looked real nice and was probably a pure cross but the black dog "didn't look right".

    People have been beating this dead horse for a long time and there is STILL no real proof of any of the claims, Wheres the add from the back of the late 50's Your Friend and Mine where Blind Billy is being advertised as a Collier bred dog. If someone can produce, scan and show that add then ill start to listen to the rest of the STORIES.

    NGK
     
  17. nwo

    nwo Banned

    Well im sorry you think that, but i suppose unless any of us were there it will always be a case of who do you believe and adding up the evidence as it is to amke a personal judgement.As for the dog you talk of looking like herman, well im think that we can take thousands of dogs and say it looks like this dog and this dog .As far as i know floyd got mavercik from n .kemer ,and that dog was being saved for an englishman who had ben the first in europe or at least one of two men the other beibg keystone to ahev dealt with don from late 78 for dogs.Mavercik was being sold to him and don set that up and kemmer sold him to floyd before the englishman arrived .Now i ask you this why do you believe the crybaby story? i believe it ,and if you believe that ,then you must also believe floyd is a lair and could also have lied about other dogs including mavercik and blind billy.
     
  18. nwo

    nwo Banned

    Yes ngk your right but the important word is IF blind billy is bred like his ped shows , and the trouble is that very few dogmen of that era believed floyds stories about blind billy , and i say stories as it changed , and i believe floyd stated that they got billy in 52 from earl and dibo wasnt born untill 53 , so you see if your going to lie you need to make sure the back story doesnt have holes in it.As for the foto, well you know that fotos and a real live dog cna be very different, i had a dog sent to me that from the fotos looked different , and when i got the dog he looked better than the fotos ,but if it handt been for the distinctive chest amrking , i would have said it was another dog , so i dont think you should put too much faith in the foto you should don, and use that as some kind of proof .Bttom line is that very few dogmen of that time believed the breeding floyd put on eli, and the chances are that if you do it once you probably will do it again , and the first time was probably blind billy , as the truth is that poeple of that era think it was a dog not bred like he shows , and if any of this and the maverick story is true , then floyds bloodlines are built on blood other than his own family , and in billys case making it out to be pure tudor dog and in the case of eli and mavercik making out its from his boudreaux blood.
    Now if like many dogmn of that era who were around and knew the men and some had even seen pups nursing on crybaby ,then like a house of cards there is a good chance that the true breedings of eli and mavercik could and should come tumbleling down around floyds feet as if you have it in you to lie about your breedings once and more smoke fills the air laster on and earlier in blind billys case , then i dont care how nice the man is to your face , and how kind he is , to me thye are like your best friend that when your away their in your house trying to screw your wife ,and thats pretty low .
     
  19. NGK

    NGK Top Dog

    So as the story goes about Blind Billy he was advenrtised in YFM late 50's on the back cover as a J.T. Collier bred dog, find me the add and ill believe the story (Don told the story) Earl Tudor was at all of Billy's matches and bet on Billy, Ed Crenshaw talks about this in his 5 hour long extensive interviews stating that Billy was bred as his papers show and last I checked nobody called ol "Honest" Ed a lier, ever. Tudor went on to state AFTER his loss that the dog wasn't bred the way his papers state and went on to also say that Blindness wasn't a defect that you would find in his yard of dogs, motive...hmmmmmm

    NGK
     

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