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The waiting game

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by LuvMyBulldogs, Jun 1, 2010.

  1. Yardboy

    Yardboy CH Dog

    End up feedin curs that way………
  2. ShakaZ

    ShakaZ CH Dog

    Give em until four... I don't like odd numbers.
  3. mlmaas

    mlmaas Top Dog

    6 months?? (i have to be the oddball)
  4. ShakaZ

    ShakaZ CH Dog

    you give em six months you're more than an oddball son
  5. junkyard

    junkyard CH Dog

    how much room do you have? ive seen em turn on at just under four, and ive had one myself who hit it hard at three. personallyi think that if its later than three or a tad older its not the dog its more the handler, they should be pretty mature by three years and logically i dont think anything is going to change that much to make a fully cold dog a ball of fire.
    not saying it doesnt happen, i just dont think mentally anything will really change maturity wise without schooling.

    you leave a dog on the spot for three years with no flirt work no springpole and little interaction, your gonna have one of two things, a complete nutcase out of boredom, or a cold as hell dog thats never even got a chance to develop those "wanted" traits.
    put most bulldogs under a flirt or spring at a young age and they will develop at least a little bit of fire, work the other dogs right in front of them and see that fire em up more than it does when you work them yourself!

    i reckon a lot of "cold" dogs wouldnt have been cold if the correct aproach was taken in schooling. i also think a true cold dog is pretty damn rare.

    ive only ever seen two dogs that i would class as cold.

    one of them was a real sight to see,looked the part, but sure didnt act the part. it was like the dumb fuck would just prefer to stand there and take it.
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  6. ShakaZ

    ShakaZ CH Dog

    Good post as usual JY. I say four because you might have one that should have rode the short bus to school.
  7. Yardboy

    Yardboy CH Dog

    That's crazy!!!!! It's too early to work a dog at six months. Definity too young to look at him. :eek:
  8. Laced Wit Game

    Laced Wit Game Yard Boy

  9. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    exactly, a yard full of em. 3 years max! And in all seriousness macho there is no timeline. if there was we wouldnt be discussing this. Some dogs and even lines WARM UP a little faster than others. Could be 2 1/2 or a couple months. Just be patient, hence the title of the thread;)
  10. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    got to be realistic CW it's hard to make high rank @ 5+ years old. then if it's a female how many breeding will be left in a 6-7 year old bitch? the time & money spent on wating 4+ years on one to come around. could be spent on a prospect that already made low rank & has a bright future.
  11. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

  12. rallyracer

    rallyracer CH Dog

    you come to the internets seeking this kind of wisdom?
    hard to believe the dogs are in the state they are in these days w/ things like this popping up all the time

    MISSAPBT Top Dog

  14. AGame

    AGame CH Dog

    Like i have said many times this website i "thought" was for people to learn about the breed and its history and to help preserve it and from day 1 i have been here all you have done as a moderator is downgrade others on the questions they have to ask as a moderator i would think you could be more helpfull when people ask these sort of questions instead of being a jerk about it
  15. drz

    drz Big Dog

    Your post is a little unclear. I dog that won't start is cold until he does start. 2 years, 3 years, 9 years. If he won't start he's cold. If you're asking how long to wait before you give up on him starting? That's going to vary wildly depending on your circumstances. I'd have to be expecting something real spectacular out of that individual for me to wait much longer than 3 years.

    But breeders have warned me that some of their strains won't start on average until 2.5 to 3 years. In those cases I waited because I knew what to expect.

    I know a well known dogman and he won't wait any longer than 15 months believe it or not.
  16. fblb

    fblb Top Dog

    I hang it up at 3. There is really no set time frame...it all depends on the animal....some bloodlines are known to start earlier than others while others don't turn on until 3 sometimes even 4 or later. Different breeders might try, and breed for early starting animals others might not. There are several different variables in this. It is a mix of the person doing the breeding, what the bloodline or strain that you are working with is throwing, and several other things. hen you have cold dogs, those are dogs that never start up. Don't want any part of the action....there has been many a cold dog to go on, and make some very fine bulldog stock, and be excellent producers of solid bulldogs. Anyhow your dog could be born started all the way up to be as cold as ice just depends on the dog. Not a one size fits all type of deal.
  17. kayo45

    kayo45 Top Dog

  18. NewSchoolDogMan

    NewSchoolDogMan Top Dog

    I think in a situation like this, you should go by your gut. Honestly, look at Tudor's Dibo, the boy wouldn't start till 4 1/2 according to some sources and he is recognized as one of the most important dogs of all time. Then you have some strains of carver and redboy dogs that just won't start until 2-3 years old. Also you should take note that if your dog is only near puppies and/or dogs of the opposite sex, certain bloodlines are selective and are extremely tolerant of any dog under 24 months and dogs of the opposite sex. Hell, there were some dogs back in the day that are Ch.'s and Gr. Ch.'s that played with pups under 2 years old in the yard. Like most of the members have said, there is no fixed time limit. Each dog is an individual and I've seen some start up as early as 18 weeks old in life.
  19. catchw8

    catchw8 Big Dog

    Im just sayin i heard some dogs start real late but when they start str8 fire but i understand 3 or 4 years old if you dont have money like that and im not thinkin bout competition in the woods im talkin bout being tested in the woods after a dog turns a certian age you can forget about runnin them in the woods alot just see if there able but mostly dogs around my way start early like 1 or 2 years
  20. LuvMyBulldogs

    LuvMyBulldogs Big Dog

    Hey Rally, I don't NEED to come here for anything. Its a bulldog forum, where u ask bulldog questions. For all those that replied I thank you for your replies. I don't have a "yard" or kennel. Just a couple dogs so I have the time and space; I've heard so MANY different answers, I thought I would ask around here for conversation sake. Some of y'all are such fucking assholes I see why the dogs are in the state they are. I don't need this fucking site, I come on here for entertainment and there is some valuable stuff on here. So Rally u can ban me or whatever you want cause I won't be back on this dumbass board to listen to some comment an idiot makes over the net. I WISH WE LIVED NEXT DOOR TO EACH OTHER. I WOULD SHOW YOU HOW MUCH I NEED THIS INTERNET!!!!

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