Turkish Boz/Turkish fighting dogs

Hello-many years ago I fostered a game dog and then hunted hogs with my pit, so learned a bit about game dog behavior. Came here hoping folks could help me understand a dog I got. Love the dog but just feel I dont have enough info on her background to set her up for success so hoping to learn from anybody.


I got two "Turkish Boz" dogs as a gift from a friend as livestock guardian dogs. They ended up embark testing as 1/3 Armenian Gampr and 2/3 anatolian, but have the big heavy Turkish Malik type built. To go with them I bought a Turkish Boz female and have seen serious dog aggression with her. The boy dogs are alright but the feamle is a hot mess.


The females is about 100 pounds, black and tan colored and is 22 months. She has cost me almost $3K in vet bills from only four fights with my other dogs. She LOVES people, all people strangers and family alike. She attacks male and female dogs, but likes younger puppies.


When she attacks, she sees the dog at a distance, eyes them hard, takes a few strides stalking them, then runs at them full speed. No growling, no warning, no gestures, nothing. She hits them in the shoulder and knocks them to the ground and bites HARD. She will start by grabbing them in the chest and arm on the dogs left side, typically tearing gashes and deep punctures, then release and grab the dogs from the top of the neck, with a very deep bite and crush over the back of the neck as well as shake. The dog she got this far on had nerve and muscle damage and developed a large seratoma and larynx nerve damage. She plays with puppies in a soft mouthed way, so does have good bite inhibition...when she wants to?


The first two fights a few months back, she let go and left the dog with gashes. The next two more recent fights I pulled her off each time. She will not back down off the dog, even though they are crying, whining and trying to escape and showing tons of submissive signs. She just keeps going back at them. In the third fight I pulled her off three times and twice she pulled free and got at the dog again even after he ran and hid from her. She broke a three hundred pound tie out line getting back at that dog. Last night the back door was open and she took off and I had to pull her off my very submissive great pyranees. I had her by the collar and she was fully braced stiff, growling and snarling at that poor dog trying to lunge at her, while the dog cowered in fear.


My understanding (only learned recently) is that some of the Boz lines are literally turkish fighting dogs but in the US they are marketing them as LGDs.


I do love the dog a lot and she is a lovely indoor pet dog at the moment, ha.

Does anybody understand if this would be the expected behavior of a turkish type fighting dog? Any ideas if these dogs are prone to human aggrresion issues-so far she is ridiculously sweet? Any idea what the hell is getting mixed up in the Boz dogs? Are there other forums where I can learn more about this type of dog?

Now that Im managing her like a game bred dog, her behavior is very predictable and she is doing ok, but Id like to learn as much as I can about her background to find things she can do, as she needs a job.

Thanks for any information you can provide

 

Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks. You're better off searching a breed specific fourm. Or call BKk and he will set you up for success.

 

Well I do tend to find the females are smarter and meaner than the boys in most species-not always stronger, but most certainly more savy and cruel. As for breed specific forums, there is one group made up of people selling the dogs for 3-5K as LGDs. Most seem unaware (or unwilling to discuss) of the root genetics of the dogs and anticipated behaviors. Often the end result for the dogs is a bullet in the head when they attack stock or other dogs.

 

You have what we call a big cur, but the solution is no different than if you had a real game dog: They must be kept separate at all times. No amount of research is going to change that fact. The best strategy is to crate and rotate. Crate train your dogs and keep one in the crate and one lose. You can also keep one outside and one inside but if/when you are going to transfer one you must keep the other crated and 100% separate.