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unknown ped

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by GameStateofMind, Nov 2, 2013.

  1. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    i don't sell and i only bred for myself no one else . but if i do a breeding i want to know i have a chance and not something to be culled . some will sell and some will do the right thing . but you will never know who will do the right thing . what kind of dogs have you been breeding ? it's just always better to think before you breed .
  2. ragedog10

    ragedog10 Top Dog

    Almost every dog of unknown breeding has went on to produce nothing of worth. Like Goat said the unknown is hard to breed on. Its a huge risk to raise and cull em all, has this dog been bred before, what makes him so good? Yis Ole Man
  3. keystone

    keystone CH Dog

    the dog with out ped he saw has it al ...
    has more then ones he know with ped ...
    life is not easy
    picture can tel a lot ......
  4. afb263

    afb263 Premium Member Premium Member

    I agree with everything said about how pedigree/genetics play a HUGE part. But you can;t deny what your eyes see and sometimes you see things so good it's worth the risk. that's all this is is Risk Vs. Reward, right?
  5. shotgun wg

    shotgun wg Big Dog

    Always raised hunting dogs. Mainly hog and deer dogs. Always liked bulldogs but never got one till recently. I know a couple guys that have been raising bulldogs for 25 years or better that I know of. That is where I learned what I know about the breed.

  6. Thank you guys gives me somethings to think about..i have so many questions to ask u guys..lol thanks
  7. okcdogman82

    okcdogman82 Top Dog

    ok so lets hypothetically are we talkin about a dog that might be match worthy? because i dont think any legit dog man would match into an unpapered unknown dog they might take that as disrespectful to his high caliber hound they would say he was cur bred!! unless you have some papers that you can hang on em which is common i have a partner that has had a bunch of dogs and a box full of papers that for a hundred bucks will sell you papers and if you have a pup about the same age when his litter drops he will lie and saay the litter is bigger than what it is for a price you can get papers on your pup!! i get on his ass all the time and tell em that aint right all he says is im grown gotdamn it stay out my personal business he does have a family so i understand you have to make every dollar you can to support your family and your yard.
  8. okcdogman82

    okcdogman82 Top Dog

    if you wanted catch dogs for hunting than yes. any dog that hunts good is worth breeding regardless of lineage.
  9. keystone

    keystone CH Dog

    match is match
    weight is weight
  10. okcdogman82

    okcdogman82 Top Dog

    point is staying honest and not lying how hes bred i think it would be harder to build that dogs reputation.
  11. keystone

    keystone CH Dog

    he don't have a ped ...so don't try to give him a ped ..meaby truth pops up ltr
    if he won or his pups winning ..he get the same reputation as others
  12. seems everybody goin towards no which i understand ..& no hangin papers over here do it right ...threw And threw..seems fact say unknown ped never produced is what im hearing or offspringdont last test of time
  13. The Saint

    The Saint Big Dog

    1. People pick up a weight, not a pedigree.
    2. The list of dogmen who hung papers are endless.
    3. Are you 100%, undoubtedly sure the dogs you swear by are bred the way you think they?
    4. Even when breeding proven dogs from proven families, there are still no guarantee that the offspring will be great. Chances are much better they might, but no guarantee.
    5. Pedigreed or not, it takes the same time to discover whether you've wastes your time or not!!!
  14. kera5

    kera5 Big Dog

    if that 's the best dog you've seen,and dont have access to others why not?some of the best one's don't have paperwork,but useally the owner have an idea on how it's bred.
  15. not at all the best dog ive seen but good dog indeed ...
  16. but i understand where u are coming 4rom'


  18. shotgun wg

    shotgun wg Big Dog

    It is ur dog and ur choice. If u do it and it clicks u have an eye for a dog and can see the good in a dog without papers. If it don't click ur an idiot that breed to a mutt.

    U can't be one without taking a chance at being the other.

    The truth is no one can say for sure. One thing I have learned by reading the history section on this site is lots of good dogs came from curs and cold dogs. Also some of the best dog men in the history of bull dogs according to this site had dogs with blank places in their peds.

    Use ur own gut and intuition it's what the big boys did.

  19. okcdogman82

    okcdogman82 Top Dog

    @shotgun^^^ damn that is the truth you made sense. i fuck wit you Arkie boys!!!
  20. who

    who Top Dog

    My buddy "found" a dog that was similar to the situation, great dog,
    He has a yard full of dogs down from this particular dog,
    I ate my words plenty of times over this "found" dog and his descendants..... lol but still won't breed to that stuff,

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