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Which way first?

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by deadrabbitsoc., Oct 14, 2016.

  1. deadrabbitsoc.

    deadrabbitsoc. Big Dog

    Tivoli Amin is off a 4x finisher who is also off of a 4x finisher and she has extremely high prey-drive that gives me the impression she is going to be hard on pups once she is fully one. I'm considering breeding her for my own benefit,meaning I would keep them all inhouse. I have access to several studs and wonder which I should attempt first being that she may not raise a litter once the SWITCH is turned fully on.

    www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=508882

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=546264
     
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  2. deadrabbitsoc.

    deadrabbitsoc. Big Dog

    Opinions welcomed & explain your thoughts
     
  3. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    I like crazyhorse because of the TDK and Banjo blood.
     
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  4. promoe

    promoe Top Dog

    both studs are bred real nice. being the way your bitch is bred I would go with copper....but you know what you have, if the crazyhorse brings more to the table go that way. are you breeding brood or box? that's what you should ask yourself. if they are all inhouse dbl up and breed her to both and get dna'd ;)
     
  5. 80BOWTIE

    80BOWTIE Big Dog

    This may be dumb and I only ask because I had this discussion earlier, can a dog have 2 sires?
     
  6. mistabonz

    mistabonz Top Dog

    Copper top! But like moe said if you know about what each stud brings to the table and what your female lacks then go with what you know.
     
  7. BOTP Kennels

    BOTP Kennels Big Dog

    That crazy horse horse dog has alot of that cars bullet blood..a good friend of mine in Tennessee lives by that blood..very game hard mouthed hounds. He had alot of sucess with it
     
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  8. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    No
     
  9. mistabonz

    mistabonz Top Dog

    No but a litter can have 2 sires!
     
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  10. 80BOWTIE

    80BOWTIE Big Dog

    Sorry thats what I meant, can a litter have two sires? Is this scientific or theoretic?
     
  11. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    True
     
  12. PlugUgly

    PlugUgly Big Dog

    The pup can only have one sire, the litter can be sired by multiple dogs. To know what pup belongs to which sire u would need to DNA the pups and sires.
     
  13. stinkrock

    stinkrock Top Dog

    That OZARK'S blood is good. I need to find a way to get a hold of the man behind the blood.....
     
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  14. Robertosilva

    Robertosilva CH Dog

    " Female dogs release multiple eggs during ovulation and are thus capable of conceiving every time they mate during this period."

    http://www.care2.com/greenliving/can-a-litter-of-puppies-have-more-than-one-father.html

    Wow, i never knew that, just thought they would breed more dogs to a female in case one sire missed while the female was in heat. There was a female sent to be bred to Lloyd's Pilot that then got stuck by a Collie dog iirc and some of the litter came out Collie like and the rest Pit Bull Terriers.

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  15. NatureBoy

    NatureBoy Big Dog

    My advice to you would be to wait to see if she's even worth being bred. Many dogs as you already know may show all the signs of being a good dog but when it's actually time to hunt they shit the bed. Or maybe just don't have what your looking for. The way they act compared to the way they perform most of the time is a different story IMO.
     
  16. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    the question is not which one,,,
    BUT WHICH ONE FIRST!!!

    the bitch gonna get bred,,,
    TO A CULL OR FAKE CHAMP!!!

    after all these years breeding,,,
    WHY ASK STRANGERS???
     
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  17. Robertosilva

    Robertosilva CH Dog

    Maybe the person wants an outside opinion, an alternative perspective on the matter. No one knows everything and someone else thinking outside the box might bring something to the table? Maybe reassurance that they are doing the right thing, or showing off their dogs and rightfully so.

    Always a good idea to see what others might do and not be blinded by your own opinions.
    At the end of the day people will do what they want and feel is right regardless of other people's input.
     
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  18. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    the question was in which order as both have been chose,,,
    WHICH ONE FIRST???
     
  19. Rock n Rye

    Rock n Rye CH Dog

    Her being on ain't got shit to do with her raising puppies lol, it's GrCh that have been excellent mothers and cold dogs who been horrible mothers. You using that "high prey drive" and her being "fully turned on" is a way for you to get away with breeding a dog that ain't proven nothing, no need for the extra story do what you're going to do anyway and breed that hoe. Everybody keeps them all until they have to sell them so time will tell. Breed her to both dogs and DNA the pups so there you kill 2 birds with 1 stone.
     
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  20. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    I agree with everything said except the 'everybody' part. I'll bury some of these dogs before they ever get sold. I can guarantee that.
     

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