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why don't apbt look like the dogs that first came over from england & ireland

Discussion in 'APBT History' started by blue paul, Aug 26, 2007.

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  1. keystone

    keystone CH Dog

    Re: why don't apbt look like the dogs that first came over from england & ireland

    right bama ...
    yes he was my first fitghing dog ....have a bautiful painting of him hanging in the kitchen
    have told already some about him here in the staffordshire ....
    the best in the erea .....stil like him......... he put me into the other world lol.....
    when got him had no cleu yet that there was a other thing called gamedog ....
    but compering staffs with gamedogs ..bridge to far ....
     
    keystone, Nov 5, 2013
    #401
  2. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    Re: why don't apbt look like the dogs that first came over from england & ireland

    Thanks fior sharing Keystone.Hey i saw some pics of your yard I think they were older pice.You got a nice setup man.I liked it.
     
    bamaman, Nov 5, 2013
    #402
  3. BLUE8BULL

    BLUE8BULL CH Dog

    Re: why don't apbt look like the dogs that first came over from england & ireland

    ....ok then bama/ks...tell us about them
     
    BLUE8BULL, Nov 5, 2013
    #403
  4. BLUE8BULL

    BLUE8BULL CH Dog

    Re: why don't apbt look like the dogs that first came over from england & ireland

    ..i will be honest...ks ya have/had a few good looking dog's...
     
    BLUE8BULL, Nov 5, 2013
    #404
  5. keystone

    keystone CH Dog

    Re: why don't apbt look like the dogs that first came over from england & ireland

    yes the cable run ..best there is
    got the idea ..when visit don first time ..
    he had a long cable between 2 big trees 3 dogs on it ..no catrols there
    cable hang's 12 feet in the air .
    each dog had own circle on the floor 15 feet
    i made like you saw on a pic .....somewhere ...have many of those pics .......
    and rod copy my system ..later on
    also copy his catmill ..same size as him 70 feet going from one side to the other side trough the middle .......
    dogman that cal a thing like that a JENNY aint dogman .lol
     
    keystone, Nov 5, 2013
    #405
  6. BLUE8BULL

    BLUE8BULL CH Dog

    Re: why don't apbt look like the dogs that first came over from england & ireland

    :crap:It's clear to see ya never seen/r/owned a game bull-dog..esp;when ya say ,there is no game staff's .....get ur head out of the sand ks...paintings on the wall....we all know who your turning in-to...fat chance..ur a funny guy...:deadhorse:
     
    BLUE8BULL, Nov 5, 2013
    #406
  7. BLUE8BULL

    BLUE8BULL CH Dog

    Re: why don't apbt look like the dogs that first came over from england & ireland

    ...keystone grimm's fairy-tales...:read2:....prepare to be amazed.....lol..lol..:bow:...NOT
     
    BLUE8BULL, Nov 5, 2013
    #407
  8. Studentofthegame

    Studentofthegame Big Dog

    Re: why don't apbt look like the dogs that first came over from england & ireland

    !!! Evolution my friend !!!
     
    Studentofthegame, Nov 5, 2013
    #408
  9. BLUE8BULL

    BLUE8BULL CH Dog

    Re: why don't apbt look like the dogs that first came over from england & ireland

    ..getting back to the Q ,,WHAT MAKES YA THINK THEY DON'T LOOK THE SAME....CAUSE A-LOT DO LOOK THE SAME..APART FROM A INCREASE IN HEAVYER DOG'S,,NOT A-LOT HAS CHANGED.....
     
    BLUE8BULL, Nov 5, 2013
    #409
  10. keystone

    keystone CH Dog

    Re: why don't apbt look like the dogs that first came over from england & ireland

    thats right the usa improved the breed into pitbul /gamedogs
     
    keystone, Jun 12, 2014
    #410
  11. keystone

    keystone CH Dog

    Re: why don't apbt look like the dogs that first came over from england & ireland

    they go from uk to usa
    then from usa back to europe
    so evrything is back in europe
     
    keystone, Jun 12, 2014
    #411
  12. BLUE8BULL

    BLUE8BULL CH Dog

    Re: why don't apbt look like the dogs that first came over from england & ireland

    ...some-parts.................of euro.....lol...they never left....lol
     
    BLUE8BULL, Jun 12, 2014
    #412
  13. TDK

    TDK CH Dog Staff Member

    Re: why don't apbt look like the dogs that first came over from england & ireland

    Going back to page 13, the word terrier stems from the Latin word terra, or earth. Hence, earth dog. You will see terra in words such as terrain. It means the ground or the earth.
     
    TDK, Jun 12, 2014
    #413
  14. patjr

    patjr Top Dog

    Re: why don't apbt look like the dogs that first came over from england & ireland

    whereabouts.....bred by who....doing what??? LOL
     
    patjr, Jun 12, 2014
    #414
  15. Iron Mike

    Iron Mike CH Dog

    Re: why don't apbt look like the dogs that first came over from england & ireland


    My version? At least I know the difference between the English Bull Terrier and the dogs that came from Staffordshire England.
    Funny of all the fighting dogs which came here from all over the world the only dogs which claim to have Terrier in them was the dogs from England and those dogs no one can state which terrier was bred into them. Again I think people confused the 2 breeds. The Staffords was much older breed of dog then the English Bull Terrier. I don't think the people in England even knew where or how they came about. Remember the English Bull Terrier was created to compete against the Staffords.
    EBT was a cross from the "modern English Bulldog" and the English White Terrier.
    Staffords came from the original Bulldog.


    BTW Terrier are a cross between the Bulldog and Hounds, this common knowledge even for a novice.


    BTW don't ever confuse what I think with what Foundation thinks. No we don't agree when it comes to Colby dogs. Then again I have seen hundreds of them compared to the few he has saw.
    And 50 years more experience between us.
    Your read was pretty good until you drag me into it.
     
    Iron Mike, Jun 12, 2014
    #415
  16. Iron Mike

    Iron Mike CH Dog

    Re: why don't apbt look like the dogs that first came over from england & ireland


    Bull Shit, everyone knows the breed was created here from many different breeds of dogs from around the world.
     
    Iron Mike, Jun 12, 2014
    #416
  17. corvettedex

    corvettedex CH Dog

    Re: why don't apbt look like the dogs that first came over from england & ireland

    :winnertrophysign::
    Great Research ! The Gospel . Long live the only 100 % Pure blood all the way back to 1889......Yes Lord ! For those that are connected to get a Real Working bred Colby Bulldog, It will freshen up your genes. Lets keep in mind that we all evolve, Strive for better Bulldogs, Horses, Mankind ect......Dex :cool::sign0081:
     
    corvettedex, Jun 12, 2014
    #417
  18. BLUE8BULL

    BLUE8BULL CH Dog

    Re: why don't apbt look like the dogs that first came over from england & ireland

    ....nobody is ever gonna agree,,,on what came first,with these dog's ...chicken or the egg........?????who made the ommlete....lol.....but would agree with im ..in there was few diff type's or line's whatever ya want to call em,,from all over ,,some in it maybe stronger than others....
     
    BLUE8BULL, Jun 12, 2014
    #418
  19. corvettedex

    corvettedex CH Dog

    corvettedex, Jun 30, 2014
    #419
  20. TDK

    TDK CH Dog Staff Member

    Re: why don't apbt look like the dogs that first came over from england & ireland

    Mr. Crabb is a life long friend of mine. A finer example of someone who is consistency conscious as to immediate bloodlines, and quality conscious at the same time you will not find. He related to me once that Panhandle Belle's breeding may or may not be correct, as there were several versions of her breeding including unknown altogether. Don't panic. She produced her everlovin' ass off. So all is good.

    I'm off subject a bit, but the thread has done its usual veer.

    I think the reasons these dogs may not look exactly as they did well over a hundred years ago are: 1. That's a hell of a long time of breeding dogs for traits without focusing on how they look. 2. These dogs rarely look exactly like one another NOW, and it's all for about the same reason. More familial looks, also, which vary from family to family, sometimes more than others. And, with new family structures, even some slight variances from other families occur as they become a new nucleus of dogs. It's just ever changing. Maybe not radically, but it changes here and there, and the more time that goes by from the beginning dogs, the easier it is to see a little change. It's like someone or a child you see every day. You notice the changes less than if you see him as a child, then see that child years later. We notice change much more when example A and example B are so far apart in time.
     
    TDK, Jul 1, 2014
    #420
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