Working Bulldog Types

Just wondering about the different types of working bulldogs people keep these days. Back in the good days they had good working bulldogs all over the South. No particular name,Southern bulldogs,Old Bostons,Old Bulldogs were some of the names they were called.
Not the over cobby ,can't breathe,slow etc.
Many had a good athletic build,short muzzle,undershot and were generally good with folks and other dogs but high drive towards vermin.
I haven't seen any like that in years.

 

It sounds like you're talkin about the American Bulldog.

 

This is a pitbull form.

 

Just old working bulldogs. Yes I am aware it is but I thought working dogs were included. My mistake if the moderator wants to delete this thread.

 

Has anyone ever seen in print or photos of white English ,southern bulldogs , American bulldogs before 1950?

 

This is the kind of discussion i was looking for but didn't realize it was only apbt.
I used to have a few pictures ill have to look. We had a few in the low to mid 50 lb range of some whites agile and athletic but really bulldoggy. Ill look for pictures

 

I got a guy on my Facebook that breeds them. Victorian Bulldogs I believe he called them. Also called them old southern bulldogs.

 

It's fine. People don't just talk about APBT here. There are other working terrier folk on here too so I don't see why we can't lean the other way towards bulldogs as well.

 

Might interest those looking to read up on the ABs.

http://game-dog.com/index.php?threads/painter-type.49510/

 

AGK
Pretty awesome thanks .I enjoy seeing pictures and write ups.I appreciate it.

 

I've never heard of the Victorian but about to find out.

 

what I was looking for , any evidence they existed before the 1950s ,,either some written evidence or photos that don't show white APBTs ? I really think all this white English , southern bulldogs and American Pit Bulldog , was all invented in late 1950s -early 60s

 

Many pics of this type bulldog pre 1950s. It was the name that was created, the dogs were around.

 

can anyone post one , I'v never seen any from old books or old magazines none saying Southern Bulldogs or White English or even American Bulldogs ,not till around the 1960s

 

They used to be called American pit Bulldog but they changed the name to American Bulldog in 89 or 90. John .D. Johnson had the name changed because People confuse the two.

 

John D Johnson lived about three and a half hours away from me.

 

Best I remember in that time were 2 basic lines; Johnson & Painter . The Painter were more pit like in appearance and Johnson heavier built with shorter muzzle.
Then a friend had a black which was unusual then i think he said was a Beasley line??

 

Have the Scott dogs and the Clark dogs too I believe.