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Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by Ssdd, Jul 17, 2022.

  1. GrChHaunch

    GrChHaunch Top Dog

    Yeah, I had my leg broken from not tapping in 1999. Looking back it really wasn't too smart. What makes me want to quit more than any thing else is getting gassed. Getting punched not so much, the whole left side of my face is metal. But when I am completely gassed and can't seem to get air, yeah I will stand the line. Smart people aren't game, LOL. I remember when Renzo refused to tap against Sakaraba. I think the only time it is intelligent to be game is when your family is at stake, primarily your children.
     
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  2. GrChHaunch

    GrChHaunch Top Dog

    One thing I will say, there is a big difference between not tapping and getting a bone broken. This is at a sporting event where there are medical professionals on hand. It's gonna hurt, but you aren't going to die. That is a far cry from a truly game little dog that will go on no matter what.
     
  3. Ssdd

    Ssdd CH Dog

    The part missing from the stp video is when they went down to the basement and talked conditioning. There was 2 emills in the basement. That's it.

    Slim always said it best "they're all just another tool in the shed". Just have to find the right one for the job. Swimming is often a largely over looked tool. It's a full body exercise with 0 impact on the joints, paws, etc.

    There's been countless ways to bring one in strong and on point. The same countless ways have failed to do so also. I got told one time "most ppl do a disservice to their animal trying to put them in shape. You have to know what you're doing or all the work in the world will just hurt you in the long run".
     
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  4. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

  5. che

    che Top Dog

    You have to know whic tool or training methods fits your dog best. Like @Ssdd says. Swimmings is most of the time overlooked and one off the most greatest way to shape your dog in great condition.
     
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  6. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    Surrounded by water so swimming is one of the first things they were taught. Lover of a lot of walking too, they are not easily overtrained that way.
     
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  7. che

    che Top Dog

    Golden Gr Ch Kid was trained by only 45 min swimming I think it was his 4th hunt . You can’t compare with walking, dogs need to swim most off the time with their mouth closed and they use their nose more efficiently
     
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  8. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

     
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  9. GrChHaunch

    GrChHaunch Top Dog

    Thanks guys for sharing stuff that people like me would never otherwise know. I never conditioned a dog in my life, but EVERY thing I read from experience dogmen say the same thing: It is 50% dog, 50% man behind the dog. You can have a great dog lose to a not so great dog because the man behind it didn't bring it in in shape.

    I was reading Victer Aycart's story yesterday and he said the exact same thing. I appreciate learning from you guys.
     
  10. che

    che Top Dog

    I agree with u about what victor aycart says but not about 50% 50%. The man behind the dog is biggest factor to victory or to lose. You choose the dog, you condition , you feed you raise up . It’s absolutely not 50% 50%. It’s more the man behind the dog.
     
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  11. che

    che Top Dog

    Also u can understeand that from
    What victor aycart claim
     
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  12. Ssdd

    Ssdd CH Dog

    A great conditioner and or handler with a piece of shit dog can definitely beat a shitty handler and or conditioner with a great dog. Knowing when to catch and handle and when not to alone can win a match.... I can't say 50/50 but I also can't give either the edge.. way too many variables.
     
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  13. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    It's not abnormal for the handler to win the match for the dog. Forcing a foul, blocking the other guy out from his dogs view or his dogs view of him etc. Disco once told me a story about fat Bill coming in to weigh in and being so loud and abnoxious that no one noticed him holding the dog up while on the scale. This a dirty ass game and the #1 goal is to win and many will do that at any cost.
     
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  14. Pollo

    Pollo Big Dog

    To me the two most important things when shaping one is the feed bowl and the peak.
    I don’t care if the mf is doing handstand push-ups if his / her feed isn’t correct and if you dont peak correctly that animal is coming in flat or sluggish.

    Wellness comes from the inside out.
     
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  15. GrChHaunch

    GrChHaunch Top Dog

    Absolutely fascinating stuff guys...I greatly appreciate you sharing with me. For those of you who think I don't listen....I read and re-read every word you experienced guys lay down. I am 60 years old and am still a humble student eager to learn. If any of you are interested in how human athletes are conditioned, I can do some limited sharing. Please keep in mind that drugs are a reality in modern combat sports...I also prep competitive bodybuilders. I can't risk exposing any of my clients but I can share general stuff.

    Now before you judge me...think for a second how the world judges you...please consider that before you judge, we are all on the fringes of accepted society, but what we do is real as can be, and we are all driven by a passionate love for our respective sports. I am just a recreational pet owner, but I understand what it takes to make this great breed of dog and why it would be impossible without the true dogmen working hard in the trenches. Owning these dogs brings me great pleasure and it would be impossible without you guys.

    Having said that, I just picked up a very special athlete. 6 feet one and 305 lbs...and not a fat glob, he has a very small waist and a very aesthetic, pretty physique, tiny joints and full muscle bellies. 11.8% body fat and we are just starting his prep (or "keep" as you guys call it). He is also an absolute animal, a former D 1 wrestler and football player who did not make it in the NFL (for reasons that were more circumstantial than athletic). His strength is absolutely insane. I am thrilled to be working with him and I think he has a very strong chance at a pro card in bodybuilding.

    Some of you have asked me advice in private and I am always happy to help. In turn just help me with my dog related questions.
     
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  16. GrChHaunch

    GrChHaunch Top Dog

    We have a saying: You can't train your way around a bad diet.
     
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  17. che

    che Top Dog

    Any time. Thank you also for giving me advice in private about bodybuilding. I know a lot off about bodybuilding I have also experience with it but like I told u from first time I saw your shape and how you work out I knew you are somebody with a lot knowledge to talk about it. About dogs everyone here is willing to help anyone with questions .
     
  18. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

     
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  19. Bones1

    Bones1 Big Dog

    That guy definitely played the game better than most. When asked about this and he just lol
     
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