Really confused

This is not directed to the owner of this site or the people who run it, but is this not a game dog site? I am sure there are forums for people who rescue APBTs and stuff. If you don't like all the "game dog" talk then why come to a site called game-dog.com? I don't want to get an " online beating" I just thought I would point this out. Not looking for any fights or anything.

 

This is a game-dog site, within the legal limits of free speech. You wont find anyone here bragging about their ch's, or deadgame dogs because it will be removed by us, and furthermore the people who need to do that on the net to anon. users they will never meet, is more than likely full of shit, or has severe problems trying to fit in.

 

because such talk will get you hunted down and arrested,,, they can look right at where your ip address is at and visit you,,,, enough said

 

I never even thought about that question. I hunt with some of my dogs. I figured that is game enough for me. You can raise game chickens and not use them for fighting they still are game chickens either way. Can't fight those either legally. However if you want see it happen go to mexico and you can get your fill of it. There are even pit fights for people too. There is even a sect of poeple who fight beta fish and other fish. I am sure if there is something that will fight some one will try to make a buck at it. I believe that it is people who have no fight of their own that do these things. It is crule and a waste of such a fine dog. and I would rather boil the rooster and make Paprikosh.

 

I would rather boil the rooster and make Paprikosh.

that has nothing to do with what this thread is about, but damn funny!<!-- google_ad_section_end --><!-- / message --><!-- google_ad_section_start(weight=ignore) --><!-- google_ad_section_end -->

 

This is supposed to be a "pit bull" site that is focused on the "game dog" (APBT breed specifically) of yesterday and today as far as health, care, handling, etc. issues goes. Which basically means a promotion of responsible ownership, differentiating the 5+ breeds and mixes claimed to be a "pit bull," and educating on the history of most those breed's ancestors (American Pit Bull Terriers). This is not a site to recruit local or global dog fighters, it should be an educational site about "pit bulls" and each breed that makes the term up.

This site has never been one of which you would come to, to see the latest winning status of any dog or kennel, or to talk to other people about anything relating to illegal activities that typically come naturally with "game dogs." If that is what you consider a "game dog" site, then no, this site isn't a "game dog" site and will not contribute to the destruction of the American Pit Bull Terrier (and since this is a "pit bull" site, other breeds considered a "pit bull" as well).

However, there will be no toleration of people who completely denounce the history and\or true nature of the breed(s) such as historical mentioning of dog fighting, care, exercise, or anything relating to it or any legal sport (if you could consider them that) such as weight pulling, confirmation shows, hunting, etc.

 

Let me put it this way- the rescuers are the ones cleaning up the breed. They have a right to be here.

Shon put it right. This is an educational site devoted to the APBT, 'nuff said. There are plenty of other "game-dog" boards if you want to discuss match results & whatnot. However, in this day & age, praticipating in that sort of conversation (Especially over the 'net! Ever hear of an ip adress?) is like raising a red flag over your yard & screaming "Raid my house!!!". It's just not worth it.

Game-Dog.com is more geared towards the gamebred, working APBT. The other popular forums are more for petbulls, and those who have no real interest in their dogs working ability. I'm an active member at 3 pit bull forums, and believe me- this one is the best.

 

See, to the media and their followers, APBT and "pit bull" are two different breeds. A "pit bull" of the present could be anything looking like the APBT of the history. Many claim to own "game dogs" because of the bloodline. Let's set the record straight, you should no longer say your dog is game, you should say it's ancestors were bred to be "game". For the "pit bull" fanatics like myself, I know my dogs didn't come from "game" lines and I'm ok with that because any dog related to the APBT of the history still possess many of the it's original qualities which are used in fun competative events. So to everyone who loves the bully breed and this site, just suck it up and try to learn and educate with respect because you weren't born knowing what you what know, so with respect, those who don't know the APBT might as well shut the F***K up and listen to it's history especially if you're going to be apart of this site.

 

Especially over the 'net! Ever hear of an ip adress?

LOL IF YOU WANT AROUND THIS GET A IP SPOOFER,ROUTER,ETC.........
BUT IF YOU DONT HAVE 1

 

What reads at the top of this site, Pit Bull Community. That means all in one, to me. I rescue & adopt, I never knew that meant anything else than, helping out a homeless dog in need. Game or not, still a Pit & that saves another life. I do not believe in purchasing a pup/dog, when theres one always waiting behind a locked cage door.

 

[/QUOTE]I do not believe in purchasing a pup/dog, when theres one always waiting behind a locked cage door.[/QUOTE]Some dogs live like that even when in a "good" home.

 

Thanks. Was making the comment to be on the funny side as according to some Game is fighting and in fighting animals sometimes die at times both especially in Game Rooster fighting. All you have left is soup. I would rather not waste time in making a meal so I don't wait for the fight for dinner I go out to my chicken coop grab an older chicken or young rooster and dinner is on. And for the rest of the animals people like to fight I am not eating a dog. They way I see it if something has to die I want it for dinner. And I don't eat predators. lol Glad to make you smile.

Laus Deo! Praise be to God!

 

Its this kind of talk that gives Pit Bull Lovers a bad name. I love my dogs..and I understand that their background was "Game"....people do not always understand my way of thinking....or how I think of my breed....I love them...Game is game...but it depends on how you see it...

Its a Pit Bull Thing...You wouldn't understand....My new motto...

 

Attila, I respect what you are saying but you have to understand that gameness doesnt comes from nothing or from hunting or from sleet puling. You dont have to fight one single dog in your whole life(I never did)) but you shouldnt blame on legal or illegal dogfighter because they are the ones who give you the chance to get a game dog. It would be unfair to say that this is not the truth.And you talked about game flowl, you know a bred called Aseel? It took thousands of years to create them....a few T H O U S A N D years breeding for just one purpose, only for the fight. The best and oldest domesticadet animals are the ones that have the fight as background.......no one has to talk game but everyone has to respect facts.

 

Just another school of thought.... Most of the dogs that are rescued and/or adopted should never have been born anyway. IMO it is borderline ignorant to have a apbt for JUST a pet and never let it do what it was meant to do(hunt) There are many other breeds to have just to have. If you arent letting a dog fulfill his destiny as a true athlete/warrior it is unfair to the dog. I'm not JUST talking about apbt's either. Having a lab or retreiver and not hunting them is the same type of unfair behavior people subject their dogs to.

When people rescue dogs theySURE let you know they do. Do they want credit or "props" for saving an animal that should have never existed?? I am in no way against animal shelters that kill apbt's simply for the fact that it may be the BEST place for them. I beleive this breed should ONLY be owned by working homes.

I'm not starting a war.....just giving an opinion...I dont think its ANYBODYS job to pick up someone else's mess. If thats what you do and you have a bleeding heart thats fine. Just remember dogs arent humans.

YIS

 

I think that there has been some good points made in this thread, but one thing that hasn't been mentioned that really gets to me is the term "pet bull". I feel that by calling this great breed anything other than an apbt is truly a disgrace to them.

 

I also take a teeny bit of offense to the use of the word "petbull". It just seems like such a derogatory term. I understand that this is a working breed, and I plan to use my dogs as such, but it seems like some people think less of those dogs who aren't used for working. I can't register Aaron, so he'll just be a pet. That doesn't make him any less of a dog-he's a great one. He just can't be used in the manner for which he SHOULD have been bred. You can have an APBT and not work them-that's your choice, but they're still an APBT.

 

I think that they make great pets, but that they need to be worked in some maner to make them happy. What ever that may be, but my problem is when pet owners who don't work there dogs or accept the history of the breed label theirs as "pet bulls" to make them seem better or different.

 

Good post....

 

You know, that is a good question and I'll give an answer as someone who is NOT a "dogman" but is on this site. There are a ton of dogs from game-lines that have found their way into the hands of non dogmen. So, you might (like me) just adopt a dog from the pound and have something on your hands you were not really expecting. I THINK my dog is from game lines. Almost never barks, long legs, long neck, small head, spread feet, small (38-45 lbs.) when I got him it freaked me out that he would stalk other dogs like a leopard stalking an antelope. So I figured out that I needed to learn as much as I could as fast as I could. That was several years ago but the more I learned, the more I've found out is out there to learn. So any information source is very valuable. I've read excerpts from things like SDJ for the same reason.

And in particular, I'm here to find out about different lines of game-dogs. Frankly, thats been a mixed boat. I've learned some things but getting an answer about differences between game lines is tough, because (sadly, IMO) a lot of "dogmen" seem to share something with PETA. They act as if the only thing a gameline dog is useful for or can excel at is being matched. And getting info on differences about game lines other than their behavior in the [] has been hard to come by. Its almost as if a lot of dogmen can't even think in those terms.


I agree with Louis Colby that a Pitbull is the most versatile dog there is. He once said "A Pitbull can do anything any other dog can do, then whip it". It would seem from my time on here that some dogmen are really bothered by this point of view and if anyone has a dog from a gameline and dosen't match it, then that is a gross misuse of the breed. I've found that really sad. I do agree that if you have a dog of this type and don't do something to give it a sense of having a "job" its unfair to the dog. I also think it causes behavior problems. I still do training with my guy even though he's "retired" to give him a sense of mission.


By the way,it might help, my dog is an old dog and I got him as at least I think a 7 year old. I've got a CGC/TDI on him. But, if I'd gotten him a little younger and if I'd known a little more about dog training I could have put some more advanced titles like CD or utility dog. He's as smart as any dog I've ever known, and I've had a border collie, a breed considered among the smartest. He is as smart as the boarder collie was and MUCH more willing to please. When in obedience class he blew the trainer away with how intense he was to do a good job. I've always wondered what the breeding on him might be. By the way, he's slightly undershot, and I think he might have been bred pretty tight, whatever he is.