Choke Collar ???

Prong Collar ???

What is the best way to use one With OUT hurting your dog???

 

I dont like the choke collars. I've read a study on those and the prongs. The choke collars caused more damage to the throat area than the prong. If I remeber correctly, the prong had only one that was hurt b/c the dog already had a problem with its esophagus. The choke had way more injuries b/c it doesn't disperse the pressure out evenly on the neck and a few dogs esophaguses collapsed on them.

 

It really depends on how you use it though. I use a choke chain all the time and I've yet to see an esophagus collapse. Also, did it say which breeds were used in said study. Dobies are known to have weak vertibrae due to their long arched neck and too much pressure on the collar can easily snap the neck and kill them. On a pit bull, though, it takes a lot more to do any damage.

The most common reason for pulling is actually dominance. He wants to be in front. The trick is to put him behind you. They best way to do this is to simply turn around whenever he gets too far ahead. Give him a six foot leash and a choke chain. If he runs in front of you, just turn around. Give him the full six feet to realize you've turned, then tug on the chain and bump him back to within the radius of the leash.(Do not keep steady pressure on the chain. Most dogs, especially pit bulls will ignore it) When he runs ahead of you, just turn around again. You'll look really silly walking back and forth like this, but eventually he'll start to watch you. Once he starts to check where you are and can keep track of you at six feet of leash, take up a foot and only allow him five feet to realize his mistakes. This is what I use for the humane society dogs. It works fairly quickly once you get the hang of it. I watched the person I learned this technique from teach a 6-month-old pit bull within ten minutes. It'll probably take longer for you since you've never used this technique.

 

If you want to use a choke collar, make sure it's sitting up high on their neck. Just below the ears actually. Thats a sensitive part of their body, and if you give a correction snap they will pay much more attention then if it's down towards their body.

 

THANK YOU!

Also I don't know if I used the Right Term:
I mean this kind of collar.............. (View Image please)

Is this considered a Choke Collar???

 

GEEZ!!! I don't want to hur my dog, I just want to be able to walk him w/ out being dragged down the street, lol & he's only 11 months:eek:.

I don't Yank on it or anything, I've had it for a long time & just tried it for the first time last night, it was a nice walk.


(It's the kind with prongs not just a regular choke collar, so what ever that is called)

 

I will for sure try that!
I walk Both of my Dogs at the same time though so it may be a bit challenging, Kuma (boy) is the one that drags me & Zoey is pretty good & not as solid.

 

Thats the kind I use, the ones with the prongs. They work great! Bud was a bad puller until I bought one. Now I can walk him with out it and we have nice walks everyday.

 

personally i wouldnt use a choke chain for walking down the street, get a good 2 in flat nylon and have a choke chain on as a backup maybe? or get a harness...thats what i like to use with a breed this strong.
as far as using them, try not to tighten and hold so you dont choke the sh** out of your dog! i used them for obedience training and it really is more of a "snapping" motion than a "choke". i think its the noise that freaks them out and makes them want to behave.
good luck!
btw~stillwater listed some 2 ply and 3 ply collars on a thread in "equipment" they are really nice a great price!!

 

I just got back from a walk & it was nice but now my girl Zoey seem to be a pain LOL! So U Keep Bud's normal collar on too but attach the leach to the Prong Collar?

OH No Prob........nice Clear Pic

Hey Just curious..... the photo's I try to post in here just show up as a Jpeg usually, how do U make it NOT show up that way?

 

THANKS,
I NEVER keep the collar tight on his neck the whole time, I only give a little toug when he strays away or starts pulling me too much.

 

THANK YOU!!!!!
That is SO helpful, that's ALL the stuff I wanted to know!

 

over the past 20+ years, I have had great sucess with chokes, by using this method as well.
Exactly, right up behind the ears=vulnerable area, and if done correctly, (put on like a "p" as opposed to a "q", then using one while walking, not while out on a chain,) has proven effective with my rotts, (15 years), and pits. (JMO)

 

I don't know about snapping any dogs necks... especially a dobie.

But there is only one way to use a choke chain. The dog has to remain on the same side as where the chain is set up. The chain should be used so that it is loose when there is no preasure on it. If it is used inappropriately the chain will remain snug even if the dog is close and not pulling. You can see how using it improperly would cause training issues. What kind of image are you sending by accidently correcting a dog who is behaving? Choke chains are meant to provide quick corrections, just a tug to let the dog know what's what. Nothing painful of course, but you will find this extremely difficult with a dog who needs training BAD. For instance you can know how to use it right and set it up right but if the dog is a spaz and twirling around, etc. than the dog will end up choking itself, which will cause stress, which makes the entire training experience stressful and unpleasent. Choke chains also make a distinct noise when tightened (the chain rubbing against itself) and even something that casual will have an effect on the dog and it's training sometimes.
So, since there are so many red lights involved. I would just as soon stick with the prong collar. It's easy to put on and it tightens and releases perfectly. When the dog pulls, it tightens, when the dog stops, it loosens. Simple. It is more comfortable too and dogs respond to them incredibly well. So why even bother with a choke chain? You can also buy "martingale" style collars for training. These are designed just like prong collars, the way they loosen and tighten, etc. but they have no prongs and are nylon. I've never used one because I always had a prong around but I imagine they are just as great for most dogs or a dog used to the prong but without the "evil" look.

 

For those crazy dogs you speak of I do this with a choke chain and a leash. This setup won't choke them but it will make them correct thier bad behavior with natural stimulation.

 

lol I was just about to post that. ALWAYS make sure you have the collar on properly! Twiztid thant is not the way the collar goes. You NEVER walk with the tab on the back of the neck that usually makes the collar pulled tight for the whole time it is on and not only can you hurt your dog but the dog will "get used" to it and then a correction will not work.

 

Thanks U are Very Helpful!
I have also seen the prong collars with little black rubber things on the end of each Prong, that may make me feel a little better about not hurting his neck.

 

VERY True, makes me feel better already!

 

g'day, a choke chain isn't designed to hurt your dog, unless you've put it on wrong, or you don't understand how to use it properly.
the purpose is to gets the dogs attention, when he hears the chains "clink" against each other. You should be using a "pull and release" motion, so that he learns to respond to the "clink". It's a very useful tool when teaching obedience, you shouldn't feel bad for using it, if he's taking you for a walk, he's the one who should be taught it's Wrong, it's in his nature to assume the role of Leader, if you're dog/bitch is a pit, they'll pick it up in no time at all, depending on the trainer of course. I personally believe many disobedience problems stem from that particular problem.
Jared